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Old 06-21-2009, 01:26 PM   #1
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Recently I've been experiencing a feeling of fullness even without eating. I have to force feed myself to get down 2000 calories. This has been accompanied by an unrestfull feeling almost like a bubbling acid in my stomach, if I don't eat for a certain amount of time this gets worse and worse till I force myself to eat to avoid the overwhelming feeling of nausea. Perhaps, unrelated is my recent feeling of constricted nasal passages and the feeling of not being able to give my lungs enough oxygen.

My mom was doing some research for my dad and ended up reading about nitric oxide on Wikipedia. Being a publicly edited site I took everything I read with a grain of salt. When I saw that it listed some effects from the NO that I've been feeling, I started to take it a bit more seriously.

In hospitals were NO is used medically is it used to same way as we use it with arginine supplementation or can they inhale or inject it?

"The endothelium (inner lining) of blood vessels use nitric oxide to signal the surrounding smooth muscle to relax, thus resulting in vasodilation and increasing blood flow."

If this is true then does that mean that NO supplementation relaxes muscles, making them weaker?

I'm not too educated on the biological processes of NO and everytime I research it I find that I have to be a chemist to understand the literature. So maybe someone my educated on teh topic could advice me on whether I could be feeling these effects from the NO or if it's something else.
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Old 06-22-2009, 03:54 AM   #2
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I would bet more of my money on the cause coming from some sort of stimulant. If your not taking a fat burner or something like that, your body may be sensative or becoming more sensative to the stimulant ingrediant in the NO product. Most have anywhere from 150-300mg of caffeine. Some maybe more. Caffeine is a known appetite suppresant.
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definetly the caffeine messing with ur stomach.
 
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Old 06-22-2009, 11:18 AM   #4
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Well to start I'm stopping taking Nano Vapor. Nothing else I take has caffeine in it so I'll give it a week or two and see if there's a difference. The eating thing really sucks though, I don't know what I can do to be able to eat a normal amount of food again. Last week I could eat 3500 calories no problem now I'd have to take a stick and jam it down my throat.
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Sometimes thats what you have to do bro. Even without some of these timulant on a bulk you might not be that hungry but you have to force feed that meal to get the adequate amount of calories. I hear you though. Sucks
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i would guess caffeine too cause i get like that at the end of the day when i drink a coffee in the morning and it never fails always happens to me and when i stop drinking coffee it goes away...i just fight through it or take some tums it prob just acid reflux
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In hospitals were NO is used medically is it used to same way as we use it with arginine supplementation or can they inhale or inject it?

"The endothelium (inner lining) of blood vessels use nitric oxide to signal the surrounding smooth muscle to relax, thus resulting in vasodilation and increasing blood flow."

If this is true then does that mean that NO supplementation relaxes muscles, making them weaker?
No. Your blood vessels are surrounded by smooth muscle which is NOT under your voluntary control. It relaxes and contracts based on signals from your brain. It is NOT to be confused with skeletal muscle, which is voluntarily controlled. such as your biceps.

Arginine CAN be injected, inhaled, probably, although theres no practical reason for that because of the first two methods of delivery.
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Old 06-23-2009, 10:49 AM   #8
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Ok I got skeletal and smooth muscle mixed up. I've stopped taking the NAno Vapor and the arginine and this morning does feel noticeably better than the past two days.
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Its probably the caffeine. Usually arginine doesn't have any side effects below 30 GRAMS ingested at once. Unless you were taking more than that.
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Ok there could be several reasons to your stomach issue, 1.Caffeine: Caffeine can cause an upset stomach and acid reflux it also dehydrates the body of fluids 2.Your stomach is not used to processing several compounds and the increase in food it is digesting. I think you should cut the caffeine out but not he arginine (N.O). Also try taking a digestive enzyme tablet just half before a meal and half after this will help with the uncomfortable feeling and increasing your appetite. Arginine can be delivers orally, sublingually and intramuscular. N.O supplementation is a tricky area but there is evidence to its abillity to work. Hope this helps:)
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:26 AM   #11
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Thanks guys, I think I'll stay on the arginine for now and only take the Nano Vapor once in a while. The eating isn't a new thing I always eat a lot of food. Where can I get the digestive enzyme tablet?
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You should be able to get it from your local health/vitamin store. Look for something that contains all of these enzymes: lipase,amylase,pepsin,papain. Here you will hit proteins,carbos,fats with effective enzymes that will break them down. :)
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