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Old 03-18-2009, 09:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I did a leg w/oa few weeks ago and then played an hour of b-ball with my son..
since then whenever I work legs or play ball It feels like my kneecaps are going to blow out..before I spend $$$ on the Dr. I wanted to see if anyone had similar problems and what it may be or if there is a supp to help with knee probs..I dont want to staple myself ...pry jus gettin old lol thx for any input
 



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Old 03-18-2009, 09:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Do you feel like your kneecaps tend to pull towards the outside of the knee? Or is it just a sharp pain in the knee joint? Any previous injuries on your knees?

I had a dislocated right knee in 2005 and worked my way back to normal with therapy and some specific strengthening exercises, but about 3 months ago I've been getting this sort of sharp pain in my knee joint even when I'm not doing anything (probably gonna get this checked out soon).

You could try getting some joint supplements (glucosamine/chondroitin, etc) and see if it helps, but I think it's best to go for the doc's appointment, it could be anything you know.
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You could look into USPLabs Suppercissus , but I would also get check by a physician
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Old 03-18-2009, 10:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
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yeah I plan to when the $ is right..as for the pain it seem to have alot of pressure just undr the cap at the bottom of my knees...equal on both sides.hurts most when I go down stairs or do any squats or lunges
 
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Old 03-18-2009, 11:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Try taking some anti-inflammatory meds for a week and resting them. Try not to work out on them for that time. Take a joint supplement as well as fish oil and some flax seed oil.

After a week, if they don't feel any better, or if they get worse, go to a doctor. The internet is only so much help and we aren't doctors here, so you want to make sure you get a professional opinion.

You PROBABLY irritated or damaged the tendons that connect there. I forget which one it is, medial something or patellar tendon. Or you might have irritated the bursa there. So either way you should go to a doctor if you can.
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Old 03-19-2009, 12:01 AM   #6 (permalink)
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USPlabs SuperCissus Rx as well as Fish Oil will have natural anti-inflammatory effects. No supplement will be substitute to a full recovery, however that may be achieved.

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Old 03-26-2009, 11:51 AM   #7 (permalink)
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It almost sounds as if you might have overtrained in the case of working legs and then shooting hoops for an hour. From a medical standpoint first thing is to check if you have any soft tissue damage. If not then it could be that you need to strengthen the muscles around the knee and asses your form when your working legs especially squats and presses. If no tissue damage is present then a joint support may help your situation. If you have a son that you can shoot hoops with then your probably just at that age where everything seems to hurt. Ive been in combat sports for as long as I can remember. So my joints have been battered over the years. Around this time last year a buddy of mine recomended that I try out this joint supplement for horses and I was, as anyone would be, sceptical. He swore by it and he has a few years on me so I figured "What the hell". Here is the breakdown in 1oz:

5000 mg Glucosamine HCL and Glucosamine Sulfate
100 mg Shark Cartilage (20% Chondroitin Sulfate)
32 mg Boswellin
12 mg Yucca Powder
20 mg Manganese (Ascorbate)
4 mg Bromelaine
20 mg Vitamin C
20 mg Omega 3 Fatty Acid
6.4 mg Omega 6 Fatty Acid
320 IU Vitamin A
8 IU Vitamin E


So how do these ingredients work together to provide maximum relief?

Glucosamine is a charged sugar molecule that is a key component of the extra cellular matrix of cartilage. It absorbs and releases water with each step, thereby acting as a shock absorber for the joints. With more glucosamine, there is more joint protection. It is the essential and principal ingredient that determines the quantity of proteoglycan (water-holding) molecules that are formed in the body. The proteoglycans are large, water-binding molecules made up of (both) proteins and sugars. These are a major building block of healthy, vital cartilage. Glucosamine also stimulates the production of glycosaminoglycans (GAG's) which are important proteins found in cartilage. They serve to "bind" the water within the cartilage matrix, slowing the deterioration of your joints, and easing your pain.

Shark Cartilage provides a source of chondroitin sulfate (20%) which works synergistically with glucosamine to assist in rehabilitating the cartilage that is damaged in your body. Our studies indicate that the use of shark cartilage improves the absorption of the glucosamine.

Chondroitin Sulfate serves to attract fluids into proteoglycan molecules which assists you in two ways. First, it draws nutrients into your cartilage. Secondly, it increases the flow of fluid into your cartilage to add resiliency. It also serves to protect existing cartilage from premature degeneration by blocking "bad" enzymes that destroy cartilage and as well, prevent nutrient replenishment. Chondroitin sulfate is a naturally occurring component of cartilage that aids in the lubrication and cushioning of joints. Chondroitin also provides structure and flexibility to your joints.

Manganese Ascorbate is a mineral that enhances the effectiveness of both glucosamine and chondroitin sulfates and synthesizes the production of healthy cartilage. It is essential for a healthy immune system and aids in the production of mucopolysaccharides, which are critical for maintaining healthy joints.

Yucca has a lengthy history in easing stiff joints by blocking compounds that prevent the normal formation of cartilage. The root is rich in saponins that elevate your body's ability to produce "natural" cortisone. Yucca also helps to block the release of toxins from the intestines that inhibit the normal function of cartilage. Yucca also has anti-inflammatory properties.

Bromelain helps to inhibit pro-inflammatory compounds which reduce pain and swelling. Unlike aspirin, bromelain does not inhibit the production of prostaglandins, essential to healthy joints.

Omega 3 & 6 Fatty Acids Omega-3 and Omega-6 fatty acids act as anti-inflammatory agents. Omega-3 fatty acids (EPA, DHA, and ALA) are found in fish such as salmon, mackerel, herring, tuna, halibut, anchovies, and rainbow trout and soybean oil, flaxseed oil, and walnut oil. Omega-6 fatty acids (lineolic acid) comes from various common vegetable oils. The body converts lineolic acid into GLA which can help reduce joint inflammation.

Boswellin has been used for centuries in the Indian Ayurvedic system of medicine to maintain healthy joints. Boswellic acids improve blood supply to the joints and maintain the integrity of blood vessels. At least one study has indicated that they may open up collateral blood circulation to provide a more adequate blood supply to your joints. Boswellin also serves to reduce swelling and improve mobility where individuals experience stiffness in the joints.

Vitamin A (Beta Carotene) is essential for growth and repair of body tissues and it also aids in bone formation, and at the same time protecting against deterioration.

Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) mobilizes your body's self-defense mechanisms that in turn, assist your immune system in overcoming disease. It is also a powerful antioxidant required to produce collagen, which is the main supportive protein in cartilage, tendon, and connective tissue. Collagen is the protein that "holds our bodies together" and is critical to the structure and integrity of healthy joints and also protects against bone deterioration.

Vitamin E (Tocopheral) is an antioxidant that acts to protect red blood cells and unsaturated fatty acids from oxidation damage. It also assists your body in maintaining healthy membrane tissue.



Syn-flex® contains a unique blend of ingredients found in no other product on the market today. Our one of a kind liquid formula, our pharmaceutical quality glucosamine HCL and Sulfate, and our ten complementing ingredients has resulted in a formula like no other that not only works, but works fast.

Price: $263.40 per case (12-8oz bottles per case) Plus a $15 shipping fee

So lets do the math

An average horse weighs about 650-950+ lbs. Clidsesdales can weigh more than 2000 lbs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Im using the weight of average horses in this formula because this product is for average horses.

650+950/2= 800

My lean body mass (LBM) is around 210. To simplify things and because I hate decimals Im going to use 200 as my LBM.

Now 800/200= 4

A serving is 1oz and we, generaly speaking, are 1/4 the size of an average horse so
.25 ounces (US, fluid) is equal to 0.50 tablespoon or .50 tablespoon is equal to 1.50 teaspoon

Their is 8oz in each bottle and their is 12 bottles therefore

8x4= 32= servings per bottle 32x12= 384= servings per case

There is approximately 13 months of supplement here

Now back to the price $263.40 divided by 13= $20.26 per month
If the price is a concern split it with someone. Thats what I do.

I have been taking this stuff ever since my buddy introduced me to it and my joints feel awesome. Now Im the one that gets the "are you crazy" look when I recomend it. Altough, there are a few side effects I have been experiencing with this product. I can run a mile in 2 min, I seem to be growing a tail, and my penis has grown in both length and girth. Im j/k about the last part!!!

I do not represent nor am I affliated with the manufacturer of this product.

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Old 03-26-2009, 01:12 PM   #8 (permalink)
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alhtough skeptical I dont think your crazy many pct products I have researched say not for human use..and trainers are giving horses the same steroids some men are taking ..so what the hell PM me .. thx Ill read up on it.I did go to the DR, to get blood work last week and it shows my Iron is high and that can also contribute to sore joints. I do take fish oil and getting flax oil today. I also have laid off the leg weights for a few w/o's just low impact cardio for now..thanks for the info !
 
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