Most effective (non-prohormone) muscle builder!

h3yhOwy0udOin · 03-11-2009, 09:59 PM

I'm giving my liver a nice long break, i need a good muscle building stack. So far all i have is Black Powder and IDS Smart Gainer, i plan on adding Myogenix Hardcore Test (because it's amazing). . .looking to add one more thing, something along the lines of 17-HD, but i need ideas on what you guys think is the best pro-anabolic?

**A-Ron21** · 03-11-2009, 11:12 PM

Protein. lol

Honestly dude, natural bodybuilding works best with protein, creatine, amino acids and a good diet. Most other muscle builders out there that dont use stuff like that aren't gonna work too much.

**prime52** · 03-11-2009, 11:18 PM

protein creatine bcaa's like A-rod said

**A-Ron21** · 03-12-2009, 12:03 AM

Prime you are 260? Damn dude. How tall are you? From the pic it looks like you are a beast.

**prime52** · 03-12-2009, 12:50 AM

i was up to 270 bro, drop the cals and hitting 2 days cardio and boom! down to 266 haha im six two

**ibanezman88** · 03-15-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by h3yhOwy0udOin

I'm giving my liver a nice long break, i need a good muscle building stack. So far all i have is Black Powder and IDS Smart Gainer, i plan on adding Myogenix Hardcore Test (because it's amazing). . .looking to add one more thing, something along the lines of 17-HD, but i need ideas on what you guys think is the best pro-anabolic?

best muslce building stack that's not pro-hormnes

whey protein
BCAA in the morning, before training, after training
creatine monohyrate

**A-Ron21** · 03-15-2009, 01:31 PM

Yeah good advice with the BCAA's Kenny. Taking BCAA's at night wouldn't hurt either, because all the anabolic stuff would give you a good GH and testosterone boost at night.

The ONLY bad thing about taking BCAA's multiple times per day is that many manufacturers put vitamin B6 in their BCAA powders. Because B6 is used to metabolize protein, however, they put in TOO MUCH!
And the problem is that if you are taking in more than 200mg of B6 per day for a long period of time, it can cause irreversible nerve damage! So you NEED to count how much B6 you are getting in your foods, multivitamin, and BCAA's supplements.

Vitamin B6 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I just read the wiki and apparently its a little higher upper limit than I thought - so i feel like most people will be ok. but its still something to look out for if you take a B-vitamin supplement in addition to your multivitamin.

superstar18 · 03-15-2009, 05:18 PM

I heard the ASteroid Stack works pretty good and its all natural.

borobulker · 03-16-2009, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by superstar18

I heard the ASteroid Stack works pretty good and its all natural.

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musicmann89 · 03-16-2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by superstar18

I heard the ASteroid Stack works pretty good and its all natural.

the only usp product that is worth trying is anabolic pump. Prime is garbage read reviews on it.

Havelockbeast · 03-16-2009, 12:02 PM

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the only usp product that is worth trying is anabolic pump. Prime is garbage read reviews on it.

What reviews have you read?
I used prime and had great results. I am on PowerFULL right now and It does exactly what it says it's supposed to do.

I honestly would rather try a supp out my self then read a review and base an opinion on it, as people can lie on a review about workouts or diet.
Just like with movies, I never go bye what someone else says, I always watch it for my self and base my opinion on that.

Prime worked great for me.

borobulker · 03-16-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by musicmann89

the only usp product that is worth trying is anabolic pump. Prime is garbage read reviews on it.

Ask the poor reviewers to post a picture of their bottle and/or reciept. It wont happen.

Jealousy can [attempt to] move mountains.

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