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Old 01-28-2009, 05:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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ok I see alot of post on here that you should take fish oil and flaxseed oil. what is the reason to use these 2 and how do you take them and how much.
 



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Old 01-28-2009, 11:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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they have omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids, some of the flaxseed oil pills will also have omega-9 also, the dosage is what ever is on the product you buy, they are good for your heart because the omega`s help with your cholesterol, just to name the most common reason,, there are plenty of benefits to numerous to name, do a google search and you`ll have more than enough info
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Old 01-28-2009, 11:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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fish oil and flaxseed oil have what are called EFA's, or essential fatty acids. The acids are DHA and EPA. Your body needs them for a whole lot of different things, but the main reasons that people who exercise take them are because they decrease joint inflammation, lube the joints themselves, and are also critical to proper functioning and development of the brain. fish oil also acts as a blood thinner.

You take them in gel cap form like a vitamin, and just take whatever the recommended dose is on the bottle. usually around 2 grams per day.
 
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Old 01-29-2009, 01:09 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Flaxseed oils contain ALA which can be converted into EPA'a and DHA's by the body which ever it is in need of,

However ive been reading lately that this conversion from ALA to whatever isnt just as easy as just transforming, I cant remember how it was worded but something like the processes ineffective or it loses value or something? anyone know more about this?
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Old 01-29-2009, 08:50 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Flaxseed oils contain ALA which can be converted into EPA'a and DHA's by the body which ever it is in need of,

However ive been reading lately that this conversion from ALA to whatever isnt just as easy as just transforming, I cant remember how it was worded but something like the processes ineffective or it loses value or something? anyone know more about this?
It probably isn't as biologically available...thats my guess. Either way, fish oil is better to take directly than flax oil. I take the coated fish oil pills because I hate tasting it.
 
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guess. Either way, fish oil is better to take directly than flax oil.
not necessarily , EFAs are particularly valuable because the body needs them to function properly, but can't manufacture them on its own, and since the fish oils dont contain lingnans, and flaxseeds are a rich source of lignans, substances that appear to positively affect hormone-related problems, in addition it contains the omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids,

Fish oil contains two omega-3 fatty acids known as eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA).
Flaxseed oil, on the other hand, is rich in alpha-linolenic acid, which is the "parent" fatty acid to DHA and EPA.

Although similar in structure, the benefits of alpha-linolenic acid, EPA, and DHA are not the same.

Your body converts alpha-linolenic acid rapidly into EPA, and more slowly into DHA. Roughly 11 grams of alpha-linolenic acid is needed to produce one gram of DHA and EPA. However, other foods in your diet can easily put the brakes on this conversion process.
A diet that's rich in trans-fatty fatty acids, for instance, will "interfere" with the conversion of alpha-linolenic acid into EPA and DHA. Trans-fatty acids are found in foods such as cookies, some types of margarine, chips, cakes, and popcorn.



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Old 01-29-2009, 04:16 PM   #8 (permalink)
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not necessarily , EFAs are particularly valuable because the body needs them to function properly, but can't manufacture them on its own, and since the fish oils dont contain lingnans, and flaxseeds are a rich source of lignans, substances that appear to positively affect hormone-related problems, in addition it contains the omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids,
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Old 01-29-2009, 09:29 PM   #10 (permalink)
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thanks guys what brand do you recommend I heard some are terrible tasting
 
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Old 01-30-2009, 10:00 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I usually buy the GNC brand fish oil pills; they're lemon flavoured.

Do you guys think it's worth buying the "Ultra Omega 3 GNC fish oil pills"?
The regular one (the one that I use twice daily; has omega 3's as well) has 180mg of EPA, 120mg of DHA, and 1000mg of fish oil.

The "Ultra Omega 3" one has 300mg of EPA, 200mg of DHA, and 1000mg of fish oil. These costs twice as much as the regular one.
 
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You should be getting a decent amount of Omega 6's from your diet. And depending on your fish intake you should be seeing some Omega 3's.

More often than not it's the ratio of Omega 3 vs. Omega 6 is what's out of whack and unless you are eating a lot of fish you'll need to supplement with a lot more Omega 3's and not Omega 6. Have to look at your diet and see. Mine has no tuna/fish in it (can't stand the stuff) so I supplement a lot more Omega 3's.

So I would get one that is more Omega 3 oriented with maybe some Omega 9's.

I use Nordic Naturals, they sell 2 different kinds of Omega 3 oriented ones, one is a smaller dose per capsule than the other one. Lemony tasting with no fish taste/burps.
 
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The fish oil (from what I understand) helps increase metabolism. The "guy" at Vitamin World said to stack a fat burner (in my case Fireball Liqui-Fusion) with fish oil.

Interesting article based on a recent study:

Google an article called "Omega 3 fish oil and weight loss." It has suggestions for dose amounts. The article is on a site called bodybuildingforyou
 
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Omega-3s and Omega-6s are EFA. Your body cannot produce either. ALA is concidered the essential Omega-3 (because DHA and EPA can be derived from it) and Linoleic Acid is the essential Omega-6(because GLA,AA,DGLA are derived from this). You are correct, Taking DHA and EPA directly is much more efficient than just ALA. The American diet is high in omega-6 FA, which is why people worry about the omega-3s so much. Adverse effects come from this imbalance in the ratio of omega-3 to omega-6.
 
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Fish Oil and Flax Seed Oil are some of the cheapest and most cost effective supplements you can take; even when I am done with bodybuilding (which will never happen!!) I will always be taking them.

Orbit sells ON's versions of fish and flax seed oil for about $6 each and one of these last me a little over a month (take three a day of each).
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The omega 3 and omega 6 fatty acids found in fish oils for essential fats. These fats are also found in flaxseed as the highest for a plant. They are therefore considered "good fats". Do you have pill form for hte fish oil or what? I take a few of those a day but eating fish is much more important since the pills are made from the skin and liver.

Mix the flaxseed oil with a shake once a day, I'd do the serving size the bottle says. Don't get too much fat now.
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would it be better to take both or only one?
 
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would it be better to take both or only one?
I'm still trying to figure my diet out, but......... I rotate days. Fish then flax, fish then flax and so on. Any thoughts on this?????
 
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Flaxseed has the most of any plant (omegas that is), I'd get it from fish but honesly it doesn't really matter... wait yes it does, fish oil pills are made from fish liver and skin, flaxseed's better in that sense. Now you should eat fish for fish oil vs. fish oil pills.
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