[teflondon]

Whatsup guys, im 21 about 205 lbs and around 10 percent bodyfat. im in good shape and lift heavy and although im very familiar with gear i still am choosing to wait it out a year or two. I am looking to add a natty test booster/estrogen blocker to my supplement stack. I currently use the usual protein, multivitamin, fish oil, creatine. Ive recently started using ZMA at night before i goto sleep and i am happy with what its doing (sleeping heavier atleast). Basically what im asking is should i purchase a test booster from a company such as animal, gaspari, mhp, etc etc. the list goes on and on or should i simply just create my own by supplementing with Tribulus, ZMA, and 6-OXO?

thanks

EDIT: I know this question has been asked millions of times most likely, and i know some of you are going to become severely irritated that i posted a new thread on this but if you don't mind spreading knowledge again i appreciate it. Especially to the big dogs on this forum such as LBJ .. i appreciate it.

[A-Ron21]

A good diet, training, and rest routine is the ultimate test booster. Don't worry about over the counter products, they are, generally speaking, a waste of money.

Also dude, its pretty much not a good idea to mess around with anti-estrogens either. They dont really do anything good, because you need estrogen to build muscle. A good diet, the basic essential supplements (which are protein, a vitamin, fish oil, creatine, and BCAAs) and rest are whats gonna make the most difference.

If you wanna look into the world of non-natural hormone replacement go into the steroid forum and start researching. There are some good OTC prohormones for making gains but they must be used with complete knowledge of their mechanisms and side effects.

Also, tribulus doesn't work, so dont bother wasting your money. Any effects you feel from it are just a placebo effect.

Bottom line, if you are 21 and 205lbs at 10% you definitely have room to grow and you DO NOT need a test booster because your natural test production is definitely at its highest dude.

Using ZMA like you are is an awesome way to support your test production. But the difference is that that is a mineral supp while trib and everything else are not things your body actually NEEDS to make test.

[teflondon]

nice A-ron, I appreciate your suggestions, I'm willing to give the Tribex Tribulus a shot mainly to see if it will have an effect on me but other than the basics and what has already been recommended, i'm also looking into USP labs products... specifically PowerFull, anabolic pump, and prime and cannot decide which is best for strength and muscle size gains.

[Keven702]

I hear Mass FX and hyperdrolx2 is the best natty test boosters out there

[A-Ron21]

Originally Posted by teflondon

nice A-ron, I appreciate your suggestions, I'm willing to give the Tribex Tribulus a shot mainly to see if it will have an effect on me but other than the basics and what has already been recommended, i'm also looking into USP labs products... specifically PowerFull, anabolic pump, and prime and cannot decide which is best for strength and muscle size gains.

Dude, listen to me - trib doesn't work. I'm 21 and unless I inject copious amounts of gear my test levels wont be any higher. Its basically a waste of money.

USP lab's powerFULL does work very well though, as a GH booster. I wouldn't worry about prime or anabolic pump. If you want a cheaper, more widely researched GH booster, just take 10g of Arginine before your workout and 10g before bed. Cheaper than powerFULL.

[teflondon]

true, yeah man i understand wut ur sayin. Im gona end up using some powerfull most likely, on the other hand do u have any experience or knowledge about hyperdrol and massfx

[A-Ron21]

I do actually - I took them at the same time and didn't really like it because it actually suppressed my estrogen too much. You need some estrogen. There is a lot of controversy on BB.com about hyperdrol converting, at some small rate, into a prohormone, so i'm not too sure about how safe or natural it is. I honestly didn't notice much from it, and I didn't like it too much.

However, some people take it and love it. I don't react well to products designed to modify hormone levels.