[ripper416]

i just ordered epistane,any 1 use it or hear anything about it , any feedback would be great



"GET IRON"

[prime52]

hit up ibanezman he has a whole log and stuff that should help u out

http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/f...-epistane.html

[mitbar]

look in the steroid section many logs and threads about it.

[F-111]

Link in my sig to my epi log. Might help. Be sure to PM me if u got any specific questions. I know that **** backwards now.

[ibanezman88]

epistane is great for getting past a platoe.

it will give you moderate strength gains and maybe a lbs or 2 of lean mass.

it's a good pro-hormone.

just don't exepect it to get you huge. you will notice slow steady gains as if you were training natural except the gains don't stop until after a few weeks so they're constant.

for me, it made me loose about 5lbs of water and made me weaker for about 3 1/2 weeks. then, the gains started happening in the middle of the fourth week. i believe i was at 50mg a day at that point.

low side effects and low liver toxicity.

make sure you do a proper pct. if you want to keep your gains, i suggest 2 weeks or 3 of clomid.

PCT

week 1 - clomid 50mg
week 2 - clomid 25mg or 50mg
week 3 (optional) - clomid 25mg

if you decide to go with an over the counter product for pct, you might regret it.

i would go like this

week 1 - havoc 40mg
week 2 - havoc 40mg
week 3 - havoc 50mg
week 4 - havoc 50mg
week 5 - havoc 60mg
week 6 - havoc 60mg

and then the PCT i showed you.

take my advice with a grain of salt as i'm not a guru in this stuff.

but in my honest opinion, starting at a dose lower than 40mg on epistane or havoc is a waist of time!

also, i've been hearing from many valuble sources, that havoc has been known to produce better results than epistane for some odd reason. just something to look into if you're interested.

[mitbar]

cosign ibanezman. thats exactly right. run havoc you will get better results.