[Jacska]

Okay, so here's my results of a 6 week gain cycle.

My supplements first:

1st 2 weeks - Loading and warmup phase:
1.2g + 1.8g (morning, night) of Tribulus terrestris.
15-20g creatine monohydrate split in 5gs (morning,, before meal, preworkout, after workout)
200-300g of protein in whey form

3-6 weeks - Mass building phase
1.2g+1.8g Tribulus
3-3 T Bomb II (morning, night)
5-10g Creatine monohydrate (morning shake, during workout)
1-1 Cellmass (morning, before everything else, after workout)
Animal Pak - before workout
Stack II - before workout (ECA stack)
10g of glutamine - before workout
300-400g of protein
Overall 4-5000 kcal - 4-5 meals lot's of low GI carbs, fish oil, flax seed oil

Workout plan:
Monday - off
Tuesday - Bench, incline presses, close grip presses, flyes, dips, overhead cable extension
Wednesday - off
Thursday - Deadlift, bent over rows, wide grip pulldown, close grip pulldown, abs, light good mornings
Friday - overhead presses, lateral raise, front cable raise, bent over raise, barbell curls, dumbell curls
Saturday - off
Sunday - Squats, Legpress, stiff legged deadlift, calves

Results: Bench press - 100kg x5, around 115 1RM --> 100x9 and 120x3, 127,5 1 RM (10% Strength increase)
Dead lift - 130x3 --> 160x3 (23% increase)
Squats - 100x8 (didn't go heavier) --> 130x6 (21% increase)
bent over rows - 70x10 --> 90x8 (20% increase)
Wide grip pull downs - 75x10 --> 95x8 (18% increase)

That roughly a 20% overall strength increase. I also gained 4 kgs, while fat loss is visible on the abs area (actually my belt is lousier since I started).

Any ideas for improvement or suggestions or questions on the supps and workout plan?

Thanks for reading

[A-Ron21]

How old are you? Chances are the trib and t-bomb ain't gonna do much unless your over 30. Which in that case you could prolly hit up some PH's.

[Jacska]

Originally Posted by A-Ron21

How old are you? Chances are the trib and t-bomb ain't gonna do much unless your over 30. Which in that case you could prolly hit up some PH's.

Hi, yeah, you are right, I'm not very old, 21 actually. The only reason I used it was to experience what are the effects of a naturally elevated testosterone level. I can definately say, that it works. My usual sleep is 10 hours, but with the T-bomb + tribulus combo, I was very rested after only 8 hours of sleep too, also that I now finished this cycle I'm feeling that I'm a bit more sore, my hunger is lower as well.

This is all right, because I'm on now a semi-cutting semi-musscle gaining phase so I burn some fat, while trying to at least maintain strength. I'm also stopping creatine monohydrate now, so my kidney have some time to cleanse the excess waste products now.

[Jacska]

Originally Posted by A-Ron21

How old are you? Chances are the trib and t-bomb ain't gonna do much unless your over 30. Which in that case you could prolly hit up some PH's.

I heard many times on forums, that people generally discourage using Trib and stuffs like T-bomb before getting older. I just followed the recommendations of my trainer (he used to do weigth lifting also now bodybuilding, and he has won championships on amateur levels of both) so he must not be joking. He told me that when he used this combination he had gains comparable to using roids.
At least for me I had the largest gains in my life so far in such a small amount of time. I'm gonna check how it is going without them too.

[A-Ron21]

Dude you are experiencing a placebo effect. If your diet, training, and rest are on point, then barring any outside influences like depression or stress, your test levels will be at their highest. period.

also, tell your trainer that he is an idiot for thinking that those products would be comparable to steroids. If they WERE comparable to steroids then why the **** would they be legal?? Its because they don't do ****, and thats why they are legal and steroids are not.

i dont mean to come off as an *******, but your trainer obviously has no idea what he is talking about. drop the hormone supps, they won't do anything. you just think they are.

your supps should be this:

protein
creatine
multivitamin
fish oil
BCAA's

thats it. you dont need anything else, except maybe a new trainer that actually has knowledge of diet and supplements.