[borobulker]

Originally Posted by KM

Could you send me through PM or Email verifying the results you guys conducted on components of Prime (tribulus acquaticus), PDF files are fine. Thanks

Kev

Kev,
I can send you whatever you want bud but at your age, as the above poster said you are too young. 18 and up bud.

[KM]

Originally Posted by mitbar

km is only what 15 and doesnt need any kind of boosters like powerfull or prime as he is raging with test already. he prob wakes up with a boner which is hard to do at my age......lol.....well kind of.

km i would stay away bro till your older man. just my two cents.

No I understand that, and I respect your opinion, I know that my age was an issue...that was my main problem when first looking at this stuff -- and although they recommend it for 18+, they claim it does not effect HPTA function.

Originally Posted by borobulker

Kev,
I can send you whatever you want bud but at your age, as the above poster said you are too young. 18 and up bud.

Ight bro that's cool, but how is sending a study of a certain substance have anything to with age? It's not a product nor a substance, just info to back up that tribulus aquaticus is a "natural anabolic" done preferably by your labs.

If this is true, then why does your PowerFULL FAQ state that it is safe under-age? That's false advertising.

[DEnd44]

i think he meant that he was going to send the study anyways, but would prob advise against actually consuming the product given his age.

[KM]

Originally Posted by DEnd44

i think he meant that he was going to send the study anyways, but would prob advise against actually consuming the product given his age.

OH. lol.

In that case, borobulker: disregard what I said.

[DEnd44]

and when i said given 'his' age, i meant 'your' age...i read the post and didnt realize it was you that had wanted the study. lol sorry.

and i think what borobulker is giving you is possibly a little more advanced, specific advice..they can advertise that it is 'safe', BUT that does NOT necessarily mean that if it was his son looking to take it, that he would allow him to..and that would be for reasons Mitbar had alluded to..know what i mean?..so it may not exactly be false advertising, just sketchy, manipulative advertising - which, as im sure you know, is the supplement world's main weapon. haha

[A-Ron21]

I know something else thats a natural anabolic: its called protein, and its proven to be 100% effective! lol

[DEnd44]

^^lol..

who woulda thunk it?

[borobulker]

Originally Posted by A-Ron21

I know something else thats a natural anabolic: its called protein, and its proven to be 100% effective! lol

No doubt!

PowerFULL as a matter of fact is recommended for 21 and over only.

I understand the disappointment that this causes when you are under-age. I was there, just a few years ago.

You are very smart for being skeptical. Being a healthy consumer is an important trait.

These products are 100% drug test safe. They will not suppress any hormones. Marketing and advertising is what it is, we want to push the benefits of the products to our consumers. Everything that we advertise is has been achieved and documented. However, (as the above posters mention) many things contribute to the gains one will see.

This is the reason we require the age requisite. We would assume by this point, the individuals would have proper diet and training in place. And as i am sure realize, supplements are just that, a supplement to proper diet and training.

As DEnd noted, i ment do disrespect by that post. You have every right to information. However, it is advised that you wait to use our products.

[KM]

Diet and training is, and always will be my primary, in fact check out my log, which is why i figured the benefits of this product could only be enhanced by such a hypercaloric diet (4.5-5kcal/day) -- with its nutrient partitioning effects.

[robbyybt]

Hers my take bro, USPlabs market their products as miracle supps. This annoys me and leads me to believe they arnt the best products however I have tried their cissus and it seemed to work for me. Still I dont like USP just because of their marketing but thats a personal thing.

I have yet to find a study which says something herbal could increase muscle mass. Heres another one on tribulus for you,

Tribulus terrestris is an herbal nutritional supplement that is promoted to produce large gains in strength and lean muscle mass in 5-28 days (15, 18). Although some manufacturers claim T. terrestris will not lead to a positive drug test, others have suggested that T. terrestris may increase the urinary testosterone/epitestosterone (T/E) ratio, which may place athletes at risk of a positive drug test. The purpose of the study was to determine the effect of T. terrestris on strength, fat free mass, and the urinary T/E ratio during 5 weeks of preseason training in elite rugby league players. Twenty-two Australian elite male rugby league players (mean +/- SD; age = 19.8 +/- 2.9 years; weight = 88.0 +/- 9.5 kg) were match-paired and randomly assigned in a double-blind manner to either a T. terrestris (n = 11) or placebo (n = 11) group. All subjects performed structured heavy resistance training as part of the club's preseason preparations. A T. terrestris extract (450 mg.d(-1)) or placebo capsules were consumed once daily for 5 weeks. Muscular strength, body composition, and the urinary T/E ratio were monitored prior to and after supplementation. After 5 weeks of training, strength and fat free mass increased significantly without any between-group differences. No between-group differences were noted in the urinary T/E ratio. It was concluded that T. terrestris did not produce the large gains in strength or lean muscle mass that many manufacturers claim can be experienced within 5-28 days. Furthermore, T. terrestris did not alter the urinary T/E ratio and would not place an athlete at risk of testing positive based on the World Anti-Doping Agency's urinary T/E ratio limit of 4:1.

PMID: 17530942 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

I know thats TT and its suppose to be tribulus aquaticus but I cant see it doing anything.

Personally I wouldn't take it and consider it a waste of money but its up to you.

[borobulker]

Originally Posted by robbyybt

Hers my take bro, USPlabs market their products as miracle supps. This annoys me and leads me to believe they arnt the best products however I have tried their cissus and it seemed to work for me. Still I dont like USP just because of their marketing but thats a personal thing.

I have yet to find a study which says something herbal could increase muscle mass. Heres another one on tribulus for you,



I know thats TT and its suppose to be tribulus aquaticus but I cant see it doing anything.

Personally I wouldn't take it and consider it a waste of money but its up to you.

I appreciate your honesty. However, what you must realize is that i am a competitive powerlifter. I used USPlabs products long before i became a rep for them.

I have had excellent results with each of our products, thus the base for my efforts.

What products have you used? I would love to talk to you about your use because in the case of the non-responder, most issues can be fixed with simple timing/dosing fluctuations.

In terms of our claims, we do not exaggerate our numbers. These are tried and true. Tribulus Aquaticus has been used in Ayurvedic medicine for literally thousands of years with a unflawed safety record. Although, our claims on PRIME are primarily anecdotal due to the nature of our use.

I would ask that you discontinue your comparison of TT and TA. They are simply not one in the same in terms of effects. Ask users and you will see.

I may come across as rude or 'short' and you have my apologies. However, i have experienced unparalleled results with this product as a consumer AND speak with dozens of individuals each week expressing their results.

Another note. PRIME sales are continuously growing. One would assume that if a product was ineffective, the consumer would not repeat.


Innovation simply comes at at a price.

[A-Ron21]

Hey borobulker, im curious about what mechanism powerFULL actually works to release GH. Can you send me any info on that at all?

Just as a side note, i've used it before and its great, but i honestly have no idea how it works.

[borobulker]

Originally Posted by A-Ron21

Hey borobulker, im curious about what mechanism powerFULL actually works to release GH. Can you send me any info on that at all?

Just as a side note, i've used it before and its great, but i honestly have no idea how it works.

Sure. PM me your email address and i will get you some MOA abstracts...

Thanks guys!