[catchmyz]

I just started phenadrine about 2 weeks ago and I've been off of all NO supps for awhile and my personal favorite is plasmajet. I miss the intensity and drive from plasmajet and I really think it would help me cut down more due to the extra reps while I take phenadrine. Just looking for some thoughts on whether it would be to much stims at one time.

Currently:
1 phenadrine on lift days mon-fri
creatine mono everyday
ON whey 1 scope mornings on cereal, 1 after workout
muscle milk 1 scope nights
fish oil daily with multivitamin
I'm 190 6'2

[DThomp21]

Any particular reason you are taking muscle milk right before bed??

[catchmyz]

Its casein so its a slow digesting protein I eat dinner around 7 go to sleep at 12 usually hungry and I'm not gonna have anything to eat for at least 8 hrs, I figured it was a good idea. If you think its unnecessary or a bad idea I'll listen to ideas.

[DThomp21]

You have the right idea but muscle milk isn't a good choice. It may have a little casein in it but its mostly whey. Even more than that it just has a bunch of extra junk in it. It has one of the highest dosages of saturated fat of any protein you can buy and it has a lot of sugar. You would be better off with a pure casein mixed with some peanut butter or better yet some real food. Somethin like cottage cheese and some almonds is a great combo. Your goal was definitely on the right track though

[Nixy_22]

DThomp21 - would syntha 6 be a good choice too for his casein, or again is that too high in sat fat and calories? But yea, cottage cheese is good :)

[catchmyz]

Thanks for the input, I wasn't really concerned with everything else I take, I was just interested if plasmajet stacked with phenadrine would be to much stims.

[apsnutrition]

Originally Posted by catchmyz

Thanks for the input, I wasn't really concerned with everything else I take, I was just interested if plasmajet stacked with phenadrine would be to much stims.

Plasmajet looks to be a very mild stim if any at all so it should be ok to stack with Phenadrine. Would you be dosing them at different times?

Have you looked into our Plasmagen? Not to hype our own product but feedback has been GREAT(no stims at all) and Orbit Nutrition has a great price on it. Below is the ingredients. We like to call it the "stimbolic stack" :)

Plasmafuze Proprietary Matrix 7150mg *
Beta Alanine, L-Citruline DL-Malate, Arginine Ethyl Ester DL-HCL, L-2-Aminopentanoic Acid, GPLC (Glycine Propionyl L-Carnitine), Magnesium Tanshinoate B

[allstar]

Yes I was gonna say that also, why not stack Phenadrine with the non stimmed Plasmagen, I heard they work wonders together.

[catchmyz]

i'll give plasmagen a try, Phenadrine seems to be working well so why not. Just like phenadrine, plasmagen will be coming from orbit.

[apsnutrition]

Originally Posted by catchmyz

i'll give plasmagen a try, Phenadrine seems to be working well so why not. Just like phenadrine, plasmagen will be coming from orbit.

Plasmagen will not dissapoint. Ask Team Orbit. He was on it for a while:)

[T.O]

Originally Posted by catchmyz

i'll give plasmagen a try, Phenadrine seems to be working well so why not. Just like phenadrine, plasmagen will be coming from orbit.

Sweet brother thanks. Shipped out this morning my friend.

[T.O]

Originally Posted by apsnutrition

Plasmagen will not dissapoint. Ask Team Orbit. He was on it for a while:)

Yup and back on it today.