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Old 10-22-2008, 02:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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what is the difference between Whey Protein Isolate and Whey Protein Concentrate?
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Old 10-22-2008, 06:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Its just the way the protein is filtered through into powder. A lot of concentrates go through a process of heating where most of the actual protein dies off. I've read that with some of the really bad concentrate proteins you are only digesting 20-40% of the protein thats in it. Ion-exchange isolates are the best proteins you can get as far as I know, most of them are about 97% purity...bottom line, isolates work better than concentrates.
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Old 10-22-2008, 11:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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So what is the point of even having concentrate in a powder? and what about a blend of isolate and concentrate?
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Old 10-23-2008, 06:32 AM   #4 (permalink)
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So Concentrates go through more heat and **** than isolates? I think it;s the opposite dude
Concentrates have more microfractions and are more Health friendly than isolates-it is logical that a more concentrated powder has to go through rougher processes

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Old 10-23-2008, 08:45 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Here i found this on a website explains pretty good i think:

In its raw state, whey isolate is a by-product of the cheese making process. In order to understand how it proves beneficial for bodybuilding it is necessary to have the knowledge of where it comes from. Whey isolate is gathered once the cheese making has ended and it is put through a process called micro-filtration. This process separates the milk sugars and the fat from the protein. The end result is called whey isolate or whey concentrate and becomes available to the consumer in either form.

Deciding which product is right for you is sometimes a difficult task. There are a few differences between whey isolate and whey concentrate that need to be sorted out in determining the right supplement. The protein content in whey isolate is very pure. Whey isolate is also higher in protein content per portion than whey concentrate, which naturally makes whey isolate a favoured choice. Whey isolate contains much less fat content and less lactose per serving and those facts make isolate a nice supplement for those that suffer from lactose intolerance.

The basic differences between isolate and concentrate can't be narrowed down to the isolate being more pure. That fact doesn't necessarily constitute a better supplement. In fact, most weight and strength-training experts state that both products have an enormous benefit to the diet of a bodybuilder. Isolate is typically a product that lactose intolerant people choose because it has a lower content of lactose and milk fats.

Whey isolate is processed in a way to remove most of the milk sugars and fats however this is a major downfall. There are many immune boosting properties that are drained from isolate in the filtering process. Whey concentrate is not filtered in this manner and retains all of its immune boosting properties. This is the only real draw back to whey isolate as a supplement.

Protein is protein whether it is acquired through a supplemental or a traditional diet. Proteins are the building blocks that make up the physical form so the amount that is required for an average person is very high. Even higher is the amount that is required for strenuous and rigorous strength training. Adding protein isolate to any training diet is an essential way to ensure the body has the requirements that it needs to support strength training and muscle growth.

Whey isolate is much more expensive than whey concentrate and this factor plays a role in the popularity of the supplement. This doesn't necessarily mean that it is a better product and in fact, it isn't a superior product to whey concentrate. With the exception of those with lactose intolerant issues, there is no difference at all in providing the body with necessary protein support.

A strength or muscle training individual must eat protein rich foods six times a day. For the majority of people, this is not something that can feasibly fit into today's hectic schedules. Muscles that are being strengthened and trained require at least 25-50 grams of it every three hours to grow and be strong. Isolate provides that requirement needed without the hassles of preparing a full meal. Incorporate whey isolate into your busy lifestyle today and take advantage of the ease in which you can boost your protein intake.
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So Concentrates go through more heat and **** than isolates? I think it;s the opposite dude
Concentrates have more microfractions and are more Health friendly than isolates-it is logical that a more concentrated powder has to go through rougher processes

If i'm wrong please tell me
Look at it like this, is orange juice from concentrate better then fresh squeezed ? Isolate is a better choice but if you get concentrate at least get a mix of the two.
 
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Look at it like this, is orange juice from concentrate better then fresh squeezed ? Isolate is a better choice but if you get concentrate at least get a mix of the two.
great way to explain it bro..
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Mike, Nice addition to the FDR quote bro
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THE BEST PROTEIN POWDER

First and foremost I am not affiliated what so ever with this company or the retailer. I don't even live in New Zealand or Canada. BUT much like all of you, I've been trying to find a CLEAN dairy protein powder supplement. By clean I mean no pesticides, hormones, PCB, all those estrogen and disease promoting chemicals, cold processed, undenatured, grass fed cows.

I found one that I believe is awesome and probably the best out there. It's kind of expensive though, not sure how much shipping would be to the United States.

Progressive Nutrition's Harmonized whey. Lucky I have Comcast digital voice home phone so I can call Canada for free! Anyway I called the company and got more info on it.

The milk is from New Zealand. If you know anything about New Zealand, their policies are very strict. They produce some of the cleanest proteins in the world. So this is what they told me —

> New Zealand sourced so no antibiotics, no hormones, screened for over 250 agricultural and chemical contaminants including pesticides, fertilizers and PCB's. CLEAN!
> Cows are free-range, pasture kept, grass fed (more nutritious and higher CLA content)
> Made with 5 types of proteins - Concentrate, isolate, milk, extra colostrum, extra lactoferin.
> Cold processed un-denatured (micro filtered and ultra filtered)
> Also contains herbs for liver support, kidney support, K-R-Alpha Lipoic Acid digestive enzymes and minerals from sea vegetables.
> Flax seed powder
> Sweetened only with STEVIA no harmful fructose, no cane sugar, no splenda or artificial sweeter junk (the unflavored has no sweetener at all)
> Comes in chocolate, vanilla and unflavored

I don't have enough posting credit yet to post a URL but do a web search for Sports Nutrition Depot in Canada .. and search for Progressive Harmonized Protein. Or just do a web search for Progressive Harmonized Protein and you might find a retailer in Canada selling it cheaper. The best price I found was $49.99 for 2 pound container, that is without shipping.

Yeah I know it's kind of expensive but hell, you get what you pay for. I mean New Zealand does have some of the best and cleanest policies when it comes to food. If you bought Alpha Lipoic Acid by itself along with your own protein powder It probably would figure out to be about the same amount of money out of pocket.

Take a look at it and post a message and let me know what you think. I'm probably going to try it once this last container I have is gone.
 
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Mike, Nice addition to the FDR quote bro
lol, so far your the only one that commented on the FDR part,,
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THE BEST PROTEIN POWDER

First and foremost I am not affiliated what so ever with this company or the retailer. I don't even live in New Zealand or Canada. BUT much like all of you, I've been trying to find a CLEAN dairy protein powder supplement. By clean I mean no pesticides, hormones, PCB, all those estrogen and disease promoting chemicals, cold processed, undenatured, grass fed cows.

I found one that I believe is awesome and probably the best out there. It's kind of expensive though, not sure how much shipping would be to the United States.

Progressive Nutrition's Harmonized whey. Lucky I have Comcast digital voice home phone so I can call Canada for free! Anyway I called the company and got more info on it.

The milk is from New Zealand. If you know anything about New Zealand, their policies are very strict. They produce some of the cleanest proteins in the world. So this is what they told me —

> New Zealand sourced so no antibiotics, no hormones, screened for over 250 agricultural and chemical contaminants including pesticides, fertilizers and PCB's. CLEAN!
> Cows are free-range, pasture kept, grass fed (more nutritious and higher CLA content)
> Made with 5 types of proteins - Concentrate, isolate, milk, extra colostrum, extra lactoferin.
> Cold processed un-denatured (micro filtered and ultra filtered)
> Also contains herbs for liver support, kidney support, K-R-Alpha Lipoic Acid digestive enzymes and minerals from sea vegetables.
> Flax seed powder
> Sweetened only with STEVIA no harmful fructose, no cane sugar, no splenda or artificial sweeter junk (the unflavored has no sweetener at all)
> Comes in chocolate, vanilla and unflavored

I don't have enough posting credit yet to post a URL but do a web search for Sports Nutrition Depot in Canada .. and search for Progressive Harmonized Protein. Or just do a web search for Progressive Harmonized Protein and you might find a retailer in Canada selling it cheaper. The best price I found was $49.99 for 2 pound container, that is without shipping.

Yeah I know it's kind of expensive but hell, you get what you pay for. I mean New Zealand does have some of the best and cleanest policies when it comes to food. If you bought Alpha Lipoic Acid by itself along with your own protein powder It probably would figure out to be about the same amount of money out of pocket.

Take a look at it and post a message and let me know what you think. I'm probably going to try it once this last container I have is gone.
ok well here is the link,
Sport Nutrition Depot Canada - Progressive Harmonized Protein - Natural Vanilla, 840 Grams
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