[Nixy_22]

I've been thinking about getting a fat burner. I'm almost down too 15 stone (95kg/210lbs) from about 18, from March this year (6 months'ish) and I'm very chuffed about it. However, I'm finding it SO hard to get rid of the fat around my belly/hip/love handle area. I've never NOT had fat in these areas even when I was alot younger and thin. I'm getting slightly concerned that I won't be able too lose it without losing lots of muscle, which ofcourse I don't want too do, as it seems to be an incredibly slow process and other areas of my body are very well defined now. Now my diets good and I'm up'ing my cardio, or have been doing to around probs 4-5 hours a week spread over 5/6 days training and thats not including my weights (and/or warmups) which I do for alot longer on top of that and my big leg day session.

I was wondering if getting a fat burner would be a decent idea to maybe shed an extra stone/13lbs ish, in a month, to kinda blast it off asap as I think around 14 stone is my ideal weight before I start thinking about bulking. Now i'm not looking for a miracle pill or anything and I totally know nothing in terms of fitness come for free/fast, but as far as my belly fat genetics go, well, they suck! Would anybody have any good suggestions for products on the market atm or are they all BS. I have looked into this ECA stack thing (epinephrine, caffeine, asprin) and have heard some good reviews from some personal trainers. Has anyone got any other good info?? I've been looking at this btw:- XTreme ThermoBurn - Controls Appetite & Speeds Metabolism

Now, few quick stats before I post. 6 foot tall, my body fat % is around 15% and I have a meso/endo body type. I also train, with low intensity cardio and HIIT thru the week and all that jazz too. Aiming for fat% of around 10% weight around 14 stone and not damaging my blood pressure heart in process :)

Cheers in advance

[soSoFly]

Why don't u try an ECA stack?

[mitbar]

hey man if your looking into the eca stack check this product out Delta Health Products Yellow Bullet 25mg Ephedra Delta Health Products Yellow Bullet 25mg Ephedrine $39.95 [] - $39.95 : Orbit Nutrition

if not then check into lipo 6. i have used it and had good results.

[Nixy_22]

Originally Posted by soSoFly

Why don't u try an ECA stack?

Thought I'd ask for a few opinions before I jump into anything, I'm carefull with my money.


[hey man if your looking into the eca stack check this product out Delta Health Products Yellow Bullet 25mg Ephedra Delta Health Products Yellow Bullet 25mg Ephedrine $39.95 [] - $39.95 : Orbit Nutrition

if not then check into lipo 6. i have used it and had good results.]

Does Orbit ship too the UK? Cheers for suggestions too man

[MiniArnold]

Hot rokz mate. they just make you **** out all the fat.

[Nixy_22]

Originally Posted by MiniArnold

Hot rokz mate. they just make you **** out all the fat.

Say woot? lol

what are hot rokz then? arent they the things they put in candy to make them tingle and pop in your mouth? :p

[Fed372]

I have tried EVERY fat burner on the market. Literally. On my quest down from 300 to 200 this year. I will tell you this. THey are all BS. you don't get the full effects out of them if your diet isn't clean. Then on the same hand if you eat clean the fat will come right off..... You said you are haveing trouble with your mid section. My friend the only way to shed fat there is DIET and CARDIO. Get on a Cutting DIet that works for your training and you will see results. Don't waist your time on Diet Pills/Fat burners.

[T.O]

Originally Posted by Nixy_22

Thought I'd ask for a few opinions before I jump into anything, I'm carefull with my money.


[hey man if your looking into the eca stack check this product out Delta Health Products Yellow Bullet 25mg Ephedra Delta Health Products Yellow Bullet 25mg Ephedrine $39.95 [] - $39.95 : Orbit Nutrition

if not then check into lipo 6. i have used it and had good results.]

Does Orbit ship too the UK? Cheers for suggestions too man

Sure do bro. At least for now. There may be some changes coming up but as of right now, yes.

[MotoMarine]

I got the same problem with my belly lovehandle area crap... im currently on lipo 6x with just a maximum centrum vitamin... and its working great for me! ive lost 4lbs of fat in 2 weeks... with my proper diet and a bit of cardio!

its very cheap at bodybuilding.com

hope this helps goodluck!

[Nixy_22]

Originally Posted by Fed372

I have tried EVERY fat burner on the market. Literally. On my quest down from 300 to 200 this year. I will tell you this. THey are all BS. you don't get the full effects out of them if your diet isn't clean. Then on the same hand if you eat clean the fat will come right off..... You said you are haveing trouble with your mid section. My friend the only way to shed fat there is DIET and CARDIO. Get on a Cutting DIet that works for your training and you will see results. Don't waist your time on Diet Pills/Fat burners.

I'm completely aware of the fact that you have too have a good diet and do lots of cardio. My diet is fairly perfect in terms of what I eat. No coke, alchol, crisps(chips), candy, chocolate, ice cream or fatty foods. I eat regualarly things like 2 chicken breasts with half a cup of whole grain rice and a salad, no dressing, so its not that and I pretty much only drink water. Also, I do cardio alot, well as much as I possibly can given my time in gym, gf and work. My friend a PT also told me that ephedra or epinephrine actually does make you lose weight, with caffein and asprin which only come in SOME fat burners, infact its been banned mostly because its effective, but can also effect your blood pressure or something.

Its not the fact also that I'm not losing weight either, I am doing, I just want too speed the process up to minimise muscle loss if thats even possible because I really wanna start bulking around nov/dec so I can cut up again pre summer.

[mitbar]

look into that yeallow bullet man it has ephedrine in it and should be great bro.

[Jake_ironman]

Originally Posted by Fed372

I have tried EVERY fat burner on the market. Literally. On my quest down from 300 to 200 this year. I will tell you this. THey are all BS. you don't get the full effects out of them if your diet isn't clean. Then on the same hand if you eat clean the fat will come right off..... You said you are haveing trouble with your mid section. My friend the only way to shed fat there is DIET and CARDIO. Get on a Cutting DIet that works for your training and you will see results. Don't waist your time on Diet Pills/Fat burners.

same here man... same here

only thing i think worked were Green Tea pills, drinking Green Tea, and CLA pills

I had a friend who spent like 80 bucks on hydroxycut hardcore, was already on a diet, and did cardio.. lost 2 pounds.. which he would have done anyways without hydroxycut lol

[Nixy_22]

Originally Posted by mitbar

look into that yeallow bullet man it has ephedrine in it and should be great bro.

Tried to place an order last night but aparently maestro cards dont work, but I'll be using my mastercard tonight, when I get back... works out cheaper importing those fat burners from you with exchange rate and shipping, then getting them from UK, about 20 dollars cheaper! SO its all good! Anyway, I'm gonna do it after my gym instructor assessment around start of November and up my cardio... and if I dont lose some weight I know who too blame! :p

Nah only kidding, if its got ephedrine, it should be all good. Cheers for help

[mitbar]

no prob bro, dont forget about the 5% off discount code in my sig that you can use to get an even better deal .

[T.O]

Originally Posted by Nixy_22

Tried to place an order last night but aparently maestro cards dont work, but I'll be using my mastercard tonight, when I get back... works out cheaper importing those fat burners from you with exchange rate and shipping, then getting them from UK, about 20 dollars cheaper! SO its all good! Anyway, I'm gonna do it after my gym instructor assessment around start of November and up my cardio... and if I dont lose some weight I know who too blame! :p

Nah only kidding, if its got ephedrine, it should be all good. Cheers for help

Yeah we only take Visa, master , discover and Americanexpress. Let me know ifyou have any issues woth those cards and I will jump all over it. The issue it is, not the card

[mikeh40+]

Originally Posted by Fed372

I have tried EVERY fat burner on the market. Literally. On my quest down from 300 to 200 this year. I will tell you this. THey are all BS. you don't get the full effects out of them if your diet isn't clean. Then on the same hand if you eat clean the fat will come right off..... You said you are haveing trouble with your mid section. My friend the only way to shed fat there is DIET and CARDIO. Get on a Cutting DIet that works for your training and you will see results. Don't waist your time on Diet Pills/Fat burners.

not all true, the diet comes first your 100% right, second the cardio, but the fat burners your are incorrect on, if you came down from 300 to 200 in a year and you tried every fat burner on the market.. no way did you try them all, here is a proven fact from the university of maryland medical center on green tea,

quote
Studies suggest that green tea extract may boost metabolism and help burn fat. One study confirmed that the combination of green tea and caffeine improved weight loss and maintenance in overweight and moderately obese individuals. However, a second study found that weight maintenance following weight loss was not affected by green tea. Some researchers speculate that substances in green tea known as polyphenols, specifically the catechins, are responsible for the herb's fat-burning effect

here is the link
Green tea

i agree that there are many bull**** product out there that dont burn anything but a hole in your wallet, but the eca stack is a proven fat burning supplement..

[Jeremyc1025]

drink more tea and water...and when you do cardio go at a slower pace so it only burns fat and doesn't dip into the muscle for energy...it's pretty hard to lose muscle anyway, but i understand how you're paranoid about it