Do I really have to stop!?

El Pelon · 07-16-2008, 03:41 PM

i just started taking creatine this week, but i heard and seen something that take it for a certain amount of time then stop!? Do i really have to stop, would that help me get bigger or what, i never really saw why we have to stop after a certain amount of time !?

**Freak** · 07-16-2008, 03:57 PM

Read the directions on the the bottle.

**Kirk** · 07-16-2008, 04:00 PM

haha, its that simple. ^

El Pelon · 07-16-2008, 04:10 PM

oh haha!?

**A-Ron21** · 07-16-2008, 05:54 PM

Like Michael Jackson said, Dont stop till you get enough.

**chrispghmuscle** · 07-16-2008, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by A-Ron21

Like Michael Jackson said, Dont stop till you get enough.

Yeah but michael was refering to something else..lmao

Lulence · 07-16-2008, 07:40 PM

no im pretty sure he was referring to creatine usage

**A-Ron21** · 07-17-2008, 01:10 AM

hahaaaha

extremophile_me · 07-18-2008, 01:21 AM

ofcourse dude u have to stop...do a 4 week cycle and then stop for like 2 weeks...or 3 weeks...and then start again if u want...u have to stop so that ur body dosent get used to it and still remains sensitive to creatine..

El Pelon · 07-18-2008, 03:40 PM

ohh ok i see,

and it says in the label to drink it 30min. before workout, DO I REALLY HAVE TO TAKE IT 30min. BEFORE WORKOUT!! lol
right now im taking it 30min before workout and about 30min. after workout, am i taking it right!?
its creatine mono. by the way

**MikeNYY420** · 07-18-2008, 08:52 PM

I took creatine for 4 months it was only supposed to be 2, but Muscletech puts creatine in EVERYTHING every single thing they sell. Oh, but anyway so my heart started to hurt one night after drinking, so I figured it was just dehydration, because I heard that you get cramps if you don't dirnk enough. Anyway it didn't stop after a few days so I went to the doctor and he told me to stop the cycle and the chest pains went away.

So def. cycle it every 2 months I'd say take 1 off two on or vise versa.

FriendlyRobotDog · 10-01-2008, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lulence

no im pretty sure he was referring to creatine usage

If by "creatine" you mean little boys.....

**ibanezman88** · 10-06-2008, 12:16 AM

i like to do 4 months on 2 off

Jeremyc1025 · 10-14-2008, 02:09 PM

yeah its just like medicine sort of..if you continually take it your body will become immune to it and won't work as well

**MikeNYY420** · 10-14-2008, 09:14 PM

^ Not entirely true. To my understanding when you supplement creatine it's used also as an energy source. The creatine system is the prime system involved in ATP production which is the energy source that provides short intense bursts of energy such as weight training and sprints. So the more creatine the more you can produce energy... To my understanding it's complicated, check on Calling the experts thread in the training section for more info.

Malgate · 10-15-2008, 08:18 AM

yes have to stop you do a cycle then take some time off and repeat

gym_addict · 10-15-2008, 01:48 PM

i havent stopped using it for about 2 years, heard and read places that its not neccesary to cycle creatine as long as you drink plenty of water

**MikeNYY420** · 10-15-2008, 06:53 PM

I haven't completely stopped in like 7 months and I'm fine. I told more at one point than at another though which makes a difference.

masa-je-mama · 10-15-2008, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by El Pelon

i just started taking creatine this week, but i heard and seen something that take it for a certain amount of time then stop!? Do i really have to stop, would that help me get bigger or what, i never really saw why we have to stop after a certain amount of time !?

It depends how much daily do you take creatin (monohydrat). It is recomended to use 4-6 weeks and then pause at least 2 weeks.

Cork · 10-15-2008, 08:24 PM

The only reason cycles are ever suggested for creatine is because "experts" believe that long term use can cause kidney problems from all the excess creatinine. Though no studies on it have ever been done.

**MikeNYY420** · 10-15-2008, 08:37 PM

Are you sure that's the only reason? I've never really heard others but it seems like there might be some others. Good info though man.

masa-je-mama · 10-16-2008, 05:24 AM

If you take creatin for a long time there is no effect because your body gets adaptive to creatin.Also like ''Cork'' said your kidney's may give you the problems,and that is because you take a lot water during the creatin consummation.Water gives them problems.Thats why you must take a pause.

**MikeNYY420** · 10-16-2008, 04:35 PM

^ Like I said this is incorrect. Your body uses creatine to make ATP, an immediate energy source. This allow is a reason to take it. Plus the benefits of drawing water into the muscles. I don't think that there's any truth behind the statement that creatine becomes less effective.

masa-je-mama · 10-16-2008, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeNYY420

^ Like I said this is incorrect. Your body uses creatine to make ATP, an immediate energy source. This allow is a reason to take it. Plus the benefits of drawing water into the muscles. I don't think that there's any truth behind the statement that creatine becomes less effective.

Yes you are rigth,but creatin also helps your body to recover after hard training thats why you take also after training and when you dont train.He is also drawing water in your muscles,but after a long time of taking a creatin your body doesent react the same like you started. Only if you take a small ammount daily,then you dont have to make pause.If you take a lot of creatin you must make pause.

**MikeNYY420** · 10-16-2008, 05:43 PM

I need evidence to believe that. Do you have a study? And I'm not sure about helping muscles recover either. The reason people take it post workout is to take advantage of the insulin spike and get it to the muscles faster.

masa-je-mama · 10-16-2008, 06:12 PM

I have no study for that,but I am taking it now,and it is fifth time I am using it.I heard from a lot of bodybuilders that you must make pause while using creatin.

**MikeNYY420** · 10-16-2008, 06:16 PM

It's a very common thought, but a lot of bodybuilders also do a lot of stuff wrong. This doesn't prove anything.

masa-je-mama · 10-16-2008, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeNYY420

It's a very common thought, but a lot of bodybuilders also do a lot of stuff wrong. This doesn't prove anything.

Yes,it is.Do what you want,but my advice is to make pause if you take a lot of creatin daily.

**MikeNYY420** · 10-16-2008, 09:10 PM

When I know bodybuilders that eat three meals a day, I know people who never used supplements before and swear by it. I don't know why though. Just because some big guy does it doesn't mean it's right. Even Arnold did a lot of stuff wrong. It's nothing against you I'm just saying that you're providing an opinion based on people that may not know what they're saying. And I doubt these guys have anything more than heresay to back up what they say.

I can't find **** for research and who knows maybe you are right but no one can prove anything. I am positive that creatine it still at least some what effect in recovering ATP stores from creatine kinase. The phosphagen system is responsible for this which is another word for the creatine system. ATP it used for intense bursts of energy like in weight lifting and supplementing creatine to help the creatine system will thusly result in more energy for workouts.