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Old 07-04-2008, 10:22 AM   #1
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hey guys, i've been having shoulder pains when i do incline bench press either with a barbell or dumbbell and a little bit on flat bench press. it's my rotator cuff. i must've slipped somewhere with my form but i don't remember.

anyway, so i started supplementing. i bought a bottle of tripple strength glucosamine & chondrotin which was a vitamin shoppe brand. so the bottle says to take one tabblet twice a day.
so, i feel it working so i decide to double the dose. i've been taking it for two weeks before i doubled the dose.

and i'm getting these minor headaches that are on one side of the head. i've had them since i started doubleing the dose.

what is it in this supplement that's causing the headaches.

but i also started working at my job with bright lights and loud music 2 days ago too. maybe it has nothing to do with the supplements?

is it ok to take a higher dose of this stuff? cuz it's working but i feel i need a little bit more maybe?

thanks in advance.
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Old 07-04-2008, 11:35 AM   #2
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Nope, follow the directions on the bottle. Everything has a therapeutic range and when you go outside of it you can decrease the effectiveness and/or induce sides. Give it time bro. Good luck!
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Old 07-06-2008, 12:40 AM   #4
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glucosamine and chondroiton alike neither are very fast acting. the effects are more pronounced as the longer you are on and typically aren't supposed to feel the real effects of it until a few months of use.
how long u been taking it?
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Old 07-06-2008, 08:38 AM   #5
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agree with fronttabt you typically looking at min 6-8 weeks until you should be gettin effectiveness from glucosamine
 
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Old 07-06-2008, 11:40 AM   #6
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and at 3 months, the effects start being more pronounced and so on.
theres an awesome article somewhere, im looking for.
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Old 07-06-2008, 11:42 AM   #7
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- Guide To Joint Support - Steroidology.com

this should help quite a bit.
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Old 07-06-2008, 11:59 AM   #8
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Interesting read bro, thanks.
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Old 07-06-2008, 01:11 PM   #9
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^^^^^
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was that of any help ibanez?
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High doses of glucosamine result in insulin resistance:

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Diabetologia. 2005 Oct;48(10):2131-9. Epub 2005 Jul 30. Related Articles, Links


Acute glucosamine-induced insulin resistance in muscle in vivo is associated with impaired capillary recruitment.

Wallis MG, Smith ME, Kolka CM, Zhang L, Richards SM, Rattigan S, Clark MG.

Biochemistry, School of Medicine, University of Tasmania, Private Bag 58, Hobart, Tasmania 7001, Australia.

AIMS/HYPOTHESIS: Glucose toxicity and glucosamine-induced insulin resistance have been attributed to products of glucosamine metabolism. In addition, endothelial cell nitric oxide synthase is inhibited by glucosamine. Since insulin has endothelial nitric-oxide-dependent vasodilatory effects in muscle, we hypothesise that glucosamine-induced insulin resistance in muscle in vivo is associated with impaired vascular responses including capillary recruitment. MATERIALS AND METHODS: Glucosamine (6.48 mg kg(-1) min(-1) for 3 h) was infused with or without insulin (10 mU kg(-1) min(-1)) into anaesthetised rats under euglycaemic conditions. RESULTS: Glucosamine infusion alone increased blood glucosamine (1.9+/-0.1 mmol/l) and glucose (5.4+/-0.2 to 7.7+/-0.3 mmol/l) (p<0.05) but not insulin. Glucosamine induced both hepatic and muscle insulin resistance as evident from measures of glucose appearance and disposal as well as hind-leg glucose uptake, which was inhibited by approx. 50% (p<0.05). Insulin-mediated increases in femoral arterial blood flow and capillary recruitment were completely blocked by glucosamine. CONCLUSION/INTERPRETATION: Glucosamine mediates a major impairment of insulin action in muscle vasculature associated with the insulin resistance of muscle. Further studies will be required to assess whether the impaired capillary recruitment contributes to insulin resistance.

PMID: 16059714

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Oral glucosamine in doses used to treat osteoarthritis worsens insulin resistance.
Pham T, Cornea A, Blick KE, Jenkins A, Scofield RH.

Endocrinology Division, Department of Medicine, University of Oklahoma Health Science Center, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, USA.

BACKGROUND: Glucosamine is used to treat osteoarthritis. In animals, the compound is known to cause insulin resistance, the underlying abnormality in type 2 diabetes mellitus. Insulin resistance in humans taking oral glucosamine in doses used for osteoarthritis has not been studied. METHODS: Volunteer human subjects (n = 38) without known abnormality of glucose homeostasis had fasting serum glucose, insulin, and lipids determined before and after taking 1500 mg glucosamine by mouth every day for 6 weeks. Fasting insulin and glucose were used to calculate homeostasis model assessment (HOMA-IR) and quantitative insulin sensitivity check index (QUICKI). Vascular elasticity was measured by pulse wave analysis. The paired Student's t test was used to compare baseline with posttreatment values. Pearson's correlation was used to determine the relation of baseline HOMA-IR with changes in other variables. RESULTS: We found a rise in HOMA-IR after 6 weeks of glucosamine (2.8 versus 3.2, P < 0.04). The fall in HOMA-IR among the subjects was statistically related to a higher baseline HOMA-IR by Pearson's correlation(P < 0.01). A rise in serum triglycerides and a rise in LDL cholesterol were statistically related to baseline HOMA-IR. Small artery elasticity fell, and the decrease was higher in those with the highest baseline HOMA-IR. CONCLUSIONS: Notwithstanding its efficacy remaining in question, glucosamine is widely used as treatment for osteoarthritis, which is a condition associated with both obesity and type 2 diabetes mellitus. Our data indicate that persons with underlying poorer insulin sensitivity are at risk for worsening insulin resistance and vascular function with the use of glucosamine in doses used to treat osteoarthritis.

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