[Painislove]

Hey guys I have been diagnosed with a heart disease called ventricular hypertrophy. there have been studies done on mice that show the disease being cured with viagra. I planned on buying a ****load because the study said they used 100mg per kilogram of bodyweight. I doubt this is healthy so any ideas on what would be a healthy maximum dose? I also heard bodybuilders take it because it helps flush muscles with blood in fact some people said at the gym that it's better than any no product they've taken. any ideas on the matter?

[CrownSupplements]

Shouldn't you talk to your doctor about this?

[Painislove]

I have an appointment with the cardiologist in two weeks, just thought it would be interesting to hear others input

[CrownSupplements]

Then just leave yourself alone. Maybe try getting a quicker appointment if you can.

[Zack]

u better have one hell of a g/f or some dough for hookers haha u'll be hard constantly

[Half Second]

Originally Posted by ZackKnight

u better have one hell of a g/f or some dough for hookers haha u'll be hard constantly

I don't see the issue

[mperk]

Originally Posted by ZackKnight

u better have one hell of a g/f or some dough for hookers haha u'll be hard constantly

Oh Man - I agree w/ Zack - be careful w/ that stuff - I tried it and it was fun but if you take too much you get the boner from hell - won't go away. Needless to say, you won't be able to wear pants so you won't be able to go to the gym eaither! ha

[Sed]

you better have the right pants too, not too tight jeans or anything like that, neither should you have too soft pants, unless you want it to look as if you had a baseballbat in your pocket the whole time

[musclemaniac uk]

don't ask for advice like that on here. wait until you see your doctor and see what he/she says. I don't think anyone on here is qualified to give advice like that. this is your health on the line.

[prime52]

cialis over viagra, ask your doc bro

[Painislove]

thanks guys will do. I was mostly wondering if you guys have heard of my disease and the treatments (viagra) but I'm glad you guys tried. As far as Viagra as a supplement for bodybuilding has anyone heard of it being good?

[Zack]

cialis and viagra are typically used in some gear cycles if they get like deca **** or w/e.

[prime52]

some gear may decrease libido some might have it on hand and get a boost in the bed. but basically what zack said

[Painislove]

much appreciated guys

[robbyybt]

If this is the study then it was 0.71mg/kg (sildenafil is viagra) but I can't find anywhere which says a maximum dose so definetly ask you doctor.


Sildenafil (Viagra) attenuates ischemic cardiomyopathy and improves left ventricular function in mice.

Salloum FN, Abbate A, Das A, Houser JE, Mudrick CA, Qureshi IZ, Hoke NN, Roy SK, Brown WR, Prabhakar S, Kukreja RC.


Division of Cardiology, Department of Internal, Virginia Commonwealth University, Richmond, VA 23298, USA.

We tested the hypothesis that chronic treatment with sildenafil attenuates myocardial infarction (MI)-induced heart failure. Sildenafil has potent protective effects against necrosis and apoptosis following ischemia-reperfusion in the intact heart and cardiomyocytes. ICR mice underwent MI by left anterior descending coronary artery ligation and were treated with sildenafil (0.71 mg/kg bid) or saline for 4 wk. Infarct size (IS) was measured 24 h postinfarction, and apoptosis was measured by terminal deoxynucleotidyl transferase-mediated dUTP nick-end labeling. Left ventricular end-diastolic diameter (LVEDD) and fractional shortening (FS) were measured by echocardiography. Sildenafil reduced IS (40.0 +/- 4.6%) compared with that in saline (69.6 +/- 4.1%, P < 0.05). NG-nitro-l-arginine methyl ester, a nitric oxide synthase (NOS) inhibitor (15 mg/kg bid), blocked the protective effect of sildenafil (IS, 60.2 +/- 1.6%, P < 0.05 vs. sildenafil). Western blot analysis revealed a significant increase in endothelial NOS/inducible NOS proteins 24 h post-MI after treatment with sildenafil versus saline. Apoptosis decreased from 2.4 +/- 0.3% with saline to 1.2 +/- 0.1% with sildenafil (P < 0.05) on day 7 and from 2.0 +/- 0.2% with saline to 1.2 +/- 0.1% with sildenafil on day 28 (P < 0.05), which was associated with an early increase in the Bcl-2-to-Bax ratio. LVEDD increased from baseline value of 3.6 +/- 0.1 to 5.2 +/- 0.2 and to 5.5 +/- 0.1 mm on days 7 and 28, respectively, with saline (P < 0.05) but was attenuated to 4.4 +/- 0.2 and 4.4 +/- 0.1 mm following sildenafil treatment on days 7 and 28, respectively (P > 0.05 vs. baseline). FS significantly improved post-MI with sildenafil. A marked decline in cardiac hypertrophy was observed with sildenafil, which paralleled a reduction in pulmonary edema. Survival rate was lower with saline (36%) compared with sildenafil (93%, P < 0.05). Sildenafil attenuates ischemic cardiomyopathy in mice by limiting necrosis and apoptosis and by preserving left ventricular function possibly through a nitric oxide-dependent pathway.

PMID: 18223185 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

[musicmann89]

if u take 100mg per kg of ur body weight you will first start having heart problems, go blind and probably die from a massive heart attack, but thats just my opinion

[Tripower]

Originally Posted by musicmann89

if u take 100mg per kg of ur body weight you will first start having heart problems, go blind and probably die from a massive heart attack, but thats just my opinion

You beat me to it.

[Painislove]

I didn't plan on taking that much. and yes that's the study I was referring to. I'll let you guys know what my cardiologist says.