[A-Ron21]

Hey guys. So i've been ****ing around pretty much looking at PH's and whatnot, thinking about doing a cycle in maybe 6 months or so. I'm looking at epistane, possibly the pulse cycling they have advertised, as well as checking out 11-oxo info, but i'm not really 100% on those yet so I need to learn more about them. Also looking at 3ad from Anabolic Xtreme as a PH.
But anyways, I've been checking out some stuff around the internet about Hyperdrol X2 and Mass FX, but I wanted to check with the pros first.

As far as I understand, both of these are non hormonal, correct? I've heard some good reviews from bb.com about putting on some mass with a stack of both of these. The only problem is that it is somewhat expensive for something that isn't a PH or AAS, but the fact that it shouldn't have any side effects is a goodie. What have you guys heard about it?

note - i hate just making random threads to ask questions about stuff, i have gone through all of the threads on this board and a whole bunch on bb.com related to the topic.

[mitbar]

3ad is a prework out stim, not really a ph

11-oxo form what i know a test booster.

hyperdrol x2 and mass fx overpriced and some people have ok gains from them.

what are your ultimate goals man? do you want to use to bulk or cut?

also mad props for researching this **** man, great job.

[A-Ron21]

Thanks mitbar. I'm sort of cutting now, since i'm still a year or 2 away from actually competing (as of september i will have been weight training for 3 years total lol) i'm looking for something to bulk a bit over the fall semester.

I was looking at the Hdrol and MassFX because they are pretty much non hormonal and most of the things i read about it were positive. i don't want anything hormonal yet, thats why i put it ahead 6 months or so.

i sort of cut through out the summer, last summer i cut from 190 to 175 and gained a ton of strength, although it wasn't really a purposful cut, my diet just didnt have a whole lot of carbs in it lol. So i'm sort of cutting now, i have a diet plan written up by a friend at my gym who used to be Mr. Pennsylvania (end bragging). lol so i am just modifying it slightly because im not preparing for a show.

[mindgame]

so far i heard good stuff from fx and hyp. And yes you dont need no pct or anything like that to run this cycle. Im still thinking of doing this cycle.