[chocomamey]

in one article of a popular bbing guru said that if u take
NO before bed (which supposedly dilates the blood vessels ) actually "increases your natural growth hormone " and can helpful ..what do u think people ?

[Zack]

it'll keep u up for a while and u'll get ****ty sleep haha

[musicmann89]

take 4-6g arginine or a no stimulated no product

[Zack]

the thing about some of the n.o. products is that a lot of them have caffeine... which is a vaso constrictor... but n.o. is a vaso-dilator......weiiiird

[anthk]

Originally Posted by musicmann89

take 4-6g arginine or a no stimulated no product

spot on^^, arginine is converted to n.o.

[anthk]

Originally Posted by ZackKnight

the thing about some of the n.o. products is that a lot of them have caffeine... which is a vaso constrictor... but n.o. is a vaso-dilator......weiiiird

exactly, companies contradict themselves but people still buy it.

[under construction]

NO is a hemodilator in that its suposed to actually enlarge red blood cells not your veins as in a vaso dilator like asprin

[A-Ron21]

Cosign Musicmann.

Dude, check out this thread: http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/f...nine-info.html

[Xemantic]

Originally Posted by ZackKnight

it'll keep u up for a while and u'll get ****ty sleep haha

Zack man I thought it was just me... like I work out at night coz Ima 2nd shifter so I take N.O at 11:30pm when I workout, get home a lil after one, eat and try sleepin around 2 or so and Im tired as hell but sometimes I can't sleep for ****!!! been up till 5am or 6am a few days the past week

[A-Ron21]

Originally Posted by Xemantic

Zack man I thought it was just me... like I work out at night coz Ima 2nd shifter so I take N.O at 11:30pm when I workout, get home a lil after one, eat and try sleepin around 2 or so and Im tired as hell but sometimes I can't sleep for ****!!! been up till 5am or 6am a few days the past week

Try lowering your dose or not using N.O. with a stimulant at all. I just take 5-10g of regular arginine before bed and i feel more pumped when i work out than when i used N.O. xplode.

[GeorgeT]

The question still remains does N.O inrease gh level taken before bed? and if so how? im actually interested in this thread, cuz i was debating if i shud buy some GABA to take before bed.

[feeK37]

ya thats a good way to not sleep at all.

[musicmann89]

if u wanna boost gh best way is

5g arginine
5g GABA
1g taurine
500mg magnesium
30-50mg zinc

[A-Ron21]

Originally Posted by musicmann89

if u wanna boost gh best way is

5g arginine
5g GABA
1g taurine
500mg magnesium
30-50mg zinc

Cosign this - and some BCAAs won't hurt either

[musicmann89]

Originally Posted by A-Ron21

Cosign this - and some BCAAs won't hurt either

you dont need bcaas as long as ur getting them from protien shakes imo there a waste of money id rather spend the money on whey

[GeorgeT]

Agreed, luckily ON Whey Gold Standard has 5g BCAA's in a scoop, i thought that was convenient. oh and quick question, whats the purpose of taurine and arginine, i perectly understand the purpose of GABA, Zinc and Mag.

[musicmann89]

Originally Posted by GeorgeT

Agreed, luckily ON Whey Gold Standard has 5g BCAA's in a scoop, i thought that was convenient. oh and quick question, whats the purpose of taurine and arginine, i perectly understand the purpose of GABA, Zinc and Mag.

arginine is converted into no which boosts your gh, taurine goes hand in hand with arginine to increase its effects also 1g of vitamin c helps arginine even more so, on whey is the best i have about 4-6 scoops a day so im getting 20-30g bcaa a day so im set

[lil_big_junior]

COSIGN everything Musicmann said...

OOOOOOO not to mention the hard-ons

Big PLUS lol

[musicmann89]

Originally Posted by lil_big_junior

COSIGN everything Musicmann said...

OOOOOOO not to mention the hard-ons

Big PLUS lol

yes that is a plus except when u wake up in the am and roll over lol

[A-Ron21]

hahaha true. quick question - does GABA relax you? because i had heard some stuff about taking it pre-workout to release GH, but if its gonna relax me i dont want to do that.

[musicmann89]

Originally Posted by A-Ron21

hahaha true. quick question - does GABA relax you? because i had heard some stuff about taking it pre-workout to release GH, but if its gonna relax me i dont want to do that.

yea it does, its not for pre workout, its good post workout 3-5g of it

[lil_big_junior]

^^^Or before bed

[musicmann89]

Originally Posted by lil_big_junior

^^^Or before bed

yea it works best for sleep i get such awesome sleep at 4g before bed no **** feelin in the morning like with melatonin

[A-Ron21]

Cool cool. I've been taking it pre-workout lol. It gave me pretty good pumps though.

[yosamex]

i heard somewhere that melatonin also increases gh, specifically IGF-1 and the study found that it was a good preventer of atrophy, as well.

[musicmann89]

melatonin does increase gh but it makes me and a lot of people feel like **** when they wake up, L-dopa is way better and increases gh way more

[yosamex]

hmmmm, i will check it out. is it something i could take at night without it interfering with my sleep?

[musicmann89]

Originally Posted by yosamex

hmmmm, i will check it out. is it something i could take at night without it interfering with my sleep?

yes its made to be taken at night before bed, it helps you get very good sleep

[yosamex]

is there a good supplement, which contains L-dopa? or should i just search the internet for some pure L-dopa?

[allstar]

i think some ZMAs contain it and horny goat weed