Drinking on Superdrol....?

JDawg · 05-15-2008, 04:29 PM

Me and a buddy are currently into the third week of our M-Drol cycles, and he wants to get plastered. I told him that would be a very bad idea, but couldn't back it up with exactly why. What DOES happen? BTW, the M-Drol doesn't seem to be doing anything, even after upping the doses to 40 mg/ day. If it's a bad batch or something, is it also not taxing your liver? Thnx guys

Finod · 05-15-2008, 04:42 PM

thats the prohormone m-drol right? I beleive it has very similar qualities to the old superdrol and is very taxing on the liver. You shouldnt put it thru anymore stress that it is already going through while on your cycle. Just tell him to wait until its over and liver function is back at 100%

**Zack** · 05-15-2008, 04:45 PM

pro-h's are typically liver toxic. you shouldn't put ur liver under anymore **** than it already is going through

**JakeVendetta** · 05-15-2008, 05:17 PM

17a methylated orals like that are processed through the liver, and by nature are hepatotoxic and tend to put a large strain on such a vital organ. Regardless of the livers amazing ability to recover from damage, why risk harming one of the most important organs in your body. Drinking large amounts of acohol while cycling anything seems kind of counter productive to me.

JDawg · 05-15-2008, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeVendetta

17a methylated orals like that are processed through the liver, and by nature are hepatotoxic and tend to put a large strain on such a vital organ. Regardless of the livers amazing ability to recover from damage, why risk harming one of the most important organs in your body. Drinking large amounts of acohol while cycling anything seems kind of counter productive to me.

Thanks Jake I agree - I'm sure as hell not drinking. I'm just trying to convince him that it's a stupid thing to do. But his argument is that, if the pro-h isn't doing anything(probably a bad batch), then it's not doing anything to his liver and if it does, it will heal soon...

**Zack** · 05-15-2008, 08:33 PM

how long have you both been on it and have u done research into them? it seems as though considering his temperment to the whole thing that he has no clue of how things work

**justlift32** · 05-15-2008, 08:37 PM

besides being dangerous for your health and a really important organ, he shouldn't do it because it might hinder your gains. you said it isn't working that much to begin with, and the alcohol might decrease the little gains you may have in the coming weeks. you never know.

alcohol in general for anyone looking to gain mass and putting in hard work isn't advantageous.

**mitbar** · 05-15-2008, 09:04 PM

plus i heard that drinking in excess a lot increases your estrogen. so tell him that. lol

JDawg · 05-15-2008, 11:01 PM

We've been on it for 3 weeks now. I'm gaining a little(like 3 lbs/week) - but just like I would normally with the diet I'm on, not because this stuff is working. And yeah I agree that drinking hinders gains whether or not you're taking anything. We've both done LOTS of research, he's just a bit crazy and likes drinking too much

musicmann89 · 05-15-2008, 11:26 PM

superdrol and drinkin dont go in the same sentence, bye bye liver

**T.O** · 05-16-2008, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JDawg

We've been on it for 3 weeks now. I'm gaining a little(like 3 lbs/week) - but just like I would normally with the diet I'm on, not because this stuff is working. And yeah I agree that drinking hinders gains whether or not you're taking anything. We've both done LOTS of research, he's just a bit crazy and likes drinking too much

The stuff works bro. I havent heard of a bad batch. There has got to be something wrong with your diet. 3lb a week is good. You cant gain that natrualy no matter how well your diet is unless its fat or water weight.

cmart315 · 05-16-2008, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by musicmann89

superdrol and drinkin dont go in the same sentence, bye bye liver

Hit the nail on the head right there.

**Zack** · 05-16-2008, 06:57 PM

cosign with orbit

JDawg · 05-17-2008, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Teamorbit

The stuff works bro. I havent heard of a bad batch. There has got to be something wrong with your diet. 3lb a week is good. You cant gain that natrualy no matter how well your diet is unless its fat or water weight.

I've read many forums about bad batches, so that's what got me wondering. No my diet is pretty strong, as is my workout plan. I've gained this same amount on no special supps just the same strong diet with lots of water and protein and some creatine....so maybe it is doing something but nothing special that's for sure!

**T.O** · 05-17-2008, 02:57 AM

so you have gained 3 lbs of muscle in one week before on just your dietand protein and creatine?

**mitbar** · 05-17-2008, 02:59 AM

if so he is still in newbie land were gains ar limitless ya know. **** i can barely gain 3lbs of solid muscle mass in a long time let alone a week and i have been lifting for 7 years. 3 pounds in a week would be badass man.

**T.O** · 05-17-2008, 03:04 AM

^^^^ COSIGN. Even if I gained 1 lb of muscle a week. There would be no need for gear or prohormones. Id be a anabolic machine

denny pab · 05-17-2008, 05:18 AM

tru dat, great responses to this topic. he has to be a noobie if hes gaining like that.

JDawg · 05-17-2008, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Teamorbit

so you have gained 3 lbs of muscle in one week before on just your dietand protein and creatine?

Yes, I did. Is that unheard of? Yes, it was muscle. Maybe some water weight I suppose, but I worked it so i wouldn't get that blown-up soft look.

JDawg · 05-17-2008, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mitbar

if so he is still in newbie land were gains ar limitless ya know. **** i can barely gain 3lbs of solid muscle mass in a long time let alone a week and i have been lifting for 7 years. 3 pounds in a week would be badass man.

Switch it up. Newbie land? hahaha **** man... well, been lifting for 7 yrs too. Hit a plataue for 2 yrs. Since 9/07 I've gained ~30 lbs fairly lean. Nothing besides high protein diet, fair amounts of water, and that's it. September of '07 I started listening to my body. Certain muscles healed fast and mid-week just felt like they wanted to be tortured again, so i switched up things, and that's when I saw gains again like a "newbie." I switched to one light, and one heavy workout for each muscle group every week and it is working. I have seen good gains from it - but not this supp - not much different. I'll post pics.

JDawg · 05-17-2008, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by denny pab

tru dat, great responses to this topic. he has to be a noobie if hes gaining like that.

Either everyone muscular does roids, or they figure out a way to trick their body into gaining muscle. I'm no newbie, but I'm not as experienced as most. I'm not claiming anything, just saying what I'm experiencing so that someone might offer helpful insight

JDawg · 05-17-2008, 08:18 AM

You can tell which is before, which is after... the after is from a month ago, and I look the same now

**Zack** · 05-17-2008, 10:46 AM

how long have you been training again?

**mitbar** · 05-17-2008, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JDawg

Switch it up. Newbie land? hahaha **** man... well, been lifting for 7 yrs too. Hit a plataue for 2 yrs. Since 9/07 I've gained ~30 lbs fairly lean. Nothing besides high protein diet, fair amounts of water, and that's it. September of '07 I started listening to my body. Certain muscles healed fast and mid-week just felt like they wanted to be tortured again, so i switched up things, and that's when I saw gains again like a "newbie." I switched to one light, and one heavy workout for each muscle group every week and it is working. I have seen good gains from it - but not this supp - not much different. I'll post pics.

you have definently packed on size i am not saying that but 3lbs a week is pretty damn good bro. thats all i am saying. good job with switching up your training and diet to help the gains keeep going.

i would be happy with 3lbs of no water or fat gains a week bro. i think the mdrol is working.

if you want my advice on how to get more out of it. EAT A **** LOAD MORE!!!!!

even though this is a ph it is not gear and will not give you gear results if thats what your looking for.

**Zack** · 05-17-2008, 01:41 PM

okay seriously. YOU ARE ADDING MUSCLE AND WATER AND FAT!!! THAT'S HOW THE GAME IS PLAYED!!!

**mitbar** · 05-17-2008, 02:35 PM

cosign completely^^^

JDawg · 05-17-2008, 06:05 PM

Haha, not sure I want any gear - although I guess it's probably better for you than any methylated ****. Man I'm not sure if I can eat much more...I feel like Cartman already

JDawg · 05-17-2008, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ZackKnight

okay seriously. YOU ARE ADDING MUSCLE AND WATER AND FAT!!! THAT'S HOW THE GAME IS PLAYED!!!

Damn straight. Sometimes it's hard to make your body accept and use the water and fat in the right ways

**A-Ron21** · 05-17-2008, 06:18 PM

If you want to know what the inside of a hospital looks like, go ahead and drink. Otherwise leave it alone.

JDawg · 05-17-2008, 06:33 PM

Yeah I'm not doing that. And I did convince my buddy not to either!