[Apollo89]

I know that the main part of getting bigger in this sport is my diet and the supplements should supplement my diet needs but what are some good mass building products would you guys reccomend I keep an eye out for?

[Swifty]

i would recommend Black Dragon Labs Testanate 50 and PROTEIN

i'm currently on a Testanate 50 Cycle and i should have 20-25lbs gain from the 30 day cycle and the only other thing i'm taking is whey protein. MY neighbor just finished his cycle of Testanate and gained 24lbs muscle. Feel free to PM me about my experience with the product. You can get a bottle of this from Orbit Nutrition for $50. 1 bottle=30 day cycle

[Zack]

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[JakeVendetta]

Originally Posted by Swifty

i would recommend Black Dragon Labs Testanate 50 and PROTEIN

i'm currently on a Testanate 50 Cycle and i should have 20-25lbs gain from the 30 day cycle and the only other thing i'm taking is whey protein. MY neighbor just finished his cycle of Testanate and gained 24lbs muscle. Feel free to PM me about my experience with the product. You can get a bottle of this from Orbit Nutrition for $50. 1 bottle=30 day cycle

Out of curiousity what does your PCT look like?

[Swifty]

Week 5: Activate Xtreme 4 caps, Liver Care 4 caps, BetaDRIOL 45 6 caps, Red Yeast Rice 3 tabs

Week 6: Activate Xtreme 3 caps, Liver Care 4 caps, BetaDRIOL 45 6 caps, Red Yeast Rice 3 tabs

Week 7: Activate Xtreme 2 caps, Liver Care 4 caps, BetaDRIOL 45 6 caps, Red Yeast Rice 3 tabs

Week 8: Activate Xtreme 1 cap, Liver Care 4 caps, BetaDRIOL 45 6 caps, Red Yeast Rice 3 tabs

[JakeVendetta]

to be honest i'm not too sure of actiave Xtreme as PCT, but have you considered using a SERM like clomid or tamoxafin?

[Swifty]

i've considered it but don't know much about them and/or know how to get a hold of them

[pheonix765]

25 pounds in a month is a bit extreme. even for real gear. your not going to see that from a pro hormone unless your just starting out.even then i doubt it. im calling bs on this one.

[Swifty]

call all the BS you ant dude but it ain't. i'll make sure to take pictures every week and make a daily log when i try a new supp so i can back myself better. i had taken time off of lifting and lost 30 lbs just got back into training in January. So i guess you can say it falls into the getting started "again" category.

[heg842]

I did a stack of NO-Xplode, Cellmass and Nitrix (BSN products) and had great results. Put on 15 pounds of good bodyweight in 10 weeks. It's kind of expensive, but I thought it was worth it. I felt phenomenal, my strength went up (slightly) each week, and I had great workouts. Plus I kept all the strength/bodyweight gains.

[musicmann89]

smart gainer, creatine mono, plasmajet

[pheonix765]

if you lifted hard for years then quit and then got back into it thats nothing more than muscle memory not the pro hormone. you WILL NOT gain thirty pounds in a month off of any pro hormone. end of discussion.

[Swifty]

if you say so buddy.....too bad my neighbor has been lifting for over 2 years without any breaks and gained 24lbs in a month, and yes i know that part of it is muscle memory but not all. Anyway you can rag on the ish all you want i'm just trying to help people out by giving my experience with a product. Everyone has there own opinion on everything. YOU CAN do anything you put your mind (and body) to. end of discussion.

[pheonix765]

wow you are oh so inteligent. telling someone whom you have no idea how old they are to take a "pro hormone?" yeah thats real good advice. what if that was a teenager? you can argue all you want "buddy" but fact is 30 pounds in a month after training hard for two years off of a pro hormone will not happen. not a legal one.

[Apollo89]

no worries im no kid but swifty what are all those pills yo are taking do oh and musicman what is plasmajet and smart gainer?

[Swifty]

If you want more info about it Apollo shoot me a PM bro

[musicmann89]

Originally Posted by Apollo89

no worries im no kid but swifty what are all those pills yo are taking do oh and musicman what is plasmajet and smart gainer?

plasmajet is the new no booster from gaspari i love it great stuff, and smart gainer is one of the best weight gainers ive used made by ids

[Apollo89]

eyy swifty thanks man this is helping alot musicman is smartgainer a protein or what im not quite sure?

[mm1snapper]

Originally Posted by Swifty

i would recommend Black Dragon Labs Testanate 50 and PROTEIN

i'm currently on a Testanate 50 Cycle and i should have 20-25lbs gain from the 30 day cycle and the only other thing i'm taking is whey protein. MY neighbor just finished his cycle of Testanate and gained 24lbs muscle. Feel free to PM me about my experience with the product. You can get a bottle of this from Orbit Nutrition for $50. 1 bottle=30 day cycle

Im pretty sure this was a superdrol and pheraplex clone. Really harsh on the liver man. And is one of the most gyno prone prohormones out there. Im not going to doubt your gains but you need a serm for pct or your going to have issues. PM me man and ill help you out with some good info.

[dexterium]

As for mass building supplements that are non-hormonal, look into:

-Creatine: Creatine Monohydrate, MAN Clout, or Controlled Labs Green MAGnitude
-Cell Volumizers: Glycerine (Or Controlled Labs GlycerGrow), Anabolic Pump (Excellent recomposition product as it directs carbohydrates to muscles and away from fat cells)
-BCAA: Scivation XTEND
-Casein Protein: Optimum Nutrition Casein Protein or Muscle Milk; great for before bed to supply amino acids while you sleep

Hope this helps

[mississippi joker]

Na man most importantly for mass you should take the following: CREATINE, weight gainer, BCAAs, and zma to help boost anabolic horomones while you sleep. Oh and NO-explode to give you a hella workout haha. And if your older than 18 and want to get bigger... then take test boosters and ****.

[tumo]

thats all sounds good but you cant forget to rub tuna oil on your crotch before you put on your assless chapps and do your full squats.otherwise youll chafe

[Zack]

.... wow


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[mitbar]

this thread is awesome....

first off testanate 50 is not by any means a begginer supp nor should it be just candidly thrown out there as a first time supp. the gains are more than likely legit and you do need a serm for it since it has superdrol, pheraplex and another harsh as ph that i cant think of right now.


anyways the best weightgainer is going to be from food, protein, creatine, sleep and some good old fashion bustin your ass in the gym. thats my two cents.

[ibanezman88]

oooookay
first of all, swifty, phenix is right bro. you probably just gained a bunch of water and fat and muscle combined.

second of all, apollo, swifty essetially is recommending you steroids. you should wait until you have lots of experience before touching these kinds of products.

supplements that helped me gain mass are...

true mass
optimum nutrition whey protein
creatine monohydrate

[Zack]

1/3 muscle 1/3 glycogen 1/3 water

[Buff_Mailman]

Originally Posted by dexterium

As for mass building supplements that are non-hormonal, look into:

-Creatine: Creatine Monohydrate, MAN Clout, or Controlled Labs Green MAGnitude
-Cell Volumizers: Glycerine (Or Controlled Labs GlycerGrow), Anabolic Pump (Excellent recomposition product as it directs carbohydrates to muscles and away from fat cells)
-BCAA: Scivation XTEND
-Casein Protein: Optimum Nutrition Casein Protein or Muscle Milk; great for before bed to supply amino acids while you sleep

Hope this helps

This is the best stack in this thread.
Pretty much a guarantee you'll put on some quality weight plus the Creatine will puff your muscles up a bit with water so you will look better.
DO NOT FORGET TO EAT LEAN WHOLE FOODS....Chicken , Tuna..and so on
Eat 5 to 6 meals a day and take a casein shake before bed and you will put on quality weight fast.
DO NOT BUY MUSCLETECH!!!
Near impossible to consume, Bogus taste! You won't look like Jay Cutler by drinking this ****!
good luck

[dexterium]

Originally Posted by Buff_Mailman

This is the best stack in this thread.

YEAH BUDDY LIGHT WEIGHT