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Old 03-15-2008, 02:53 PM   #1
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Hello guys.

Maybe this has been asked, I don't know and I certainly can't be arsed to look, my apologies. : p

I've been on creatine before and did the loading phase, I was wondering since I'm gonna start taking creatine again shouldn't I go through the loading phase again?

And one more, how much water is suggested to take in while on creatine? And if you answer in gallon/s, how many liters is one gallon?

Again, sorry for probably way too commonly asked questions

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Old 03-15-2008, 05:38 PM   #2
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i always do loading after i take a break on creating. for my loading i take 20 g/day and split it in 4 times. for 5 days. and then i countine with 5 g/day. its really important to drink lots of water. I drink around 5 liter of water thats about 1.5 gallon.
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Old 03-15-2008, 05:56 PM   #3
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Creatine is used in cycles. The typical cycle will last about 8-10 weeks depending on the individual. The first week of ever cycle is the loading phase. During the loading phase, you will take more creatine than usual to get your body ready for it. It is recommended that you take 20 grams/day during the loading phase. You can break this up into 4-5 times a day depending on when you eat your meals and when you work out. It is also important to take creatine up to 2 hours before you work out because it will take time for the muscles to absorb it.

there is reason to believe creatine ethyl ester (or CEE) is probably more soluble than creatine monohydrate (Cr.H20) or other forms of creatine. And, as solubility affects transport over biological membranes (such as muscle cells), it probably is taken up into your muscles more effectively. Meaning, you can load it faster. Personally believe it goes to work within upon the very 1st dose.

Following are the more popular anecdotal benefits (when compared to regular creatine monohydrate) I've been able to collect from friends, scientists, and by lurking around message boards:

-Works faster and is more efficiently absorbed
This is likely because the esterification of creatine, CEE, will increase its lipopholic abilities, and thus esterified creatine will use fat more efficiently to permeate the cell wall and exert its effects on cellular function than its unesterified creatine monohydrate counterpart.

-Requires a smaller dosage
This is likely because regular creatine monohydrate is absorbed poorly by the body, and its effectiveness is dependent on the cells' ability to absorb it. As a result, the poor absorption rate of regular creatine monohydrate requires users to ingest larger amounts of creatine monohydrate (5 to 20 grams, daily) to achieve a desired effect, versus the three to five grams of esterfied creatine, daily.

I would suggest you try CEE and simply determine how effective (or ineffective) it is for you...
-Eliminates the infamous water bloat look
Thus is likely because creatine draws water into the cell (cell volumization), and because most ingested creatine monohydrate is not all absorbed, any unabsorbed creatine will sit outside of the target cell with the water. As a result, this may cause the dreaded "creatine water bloat." Whereas esterfied creatine is said to pull nearly all of the water into the muscle cell, thereby creating a harder, more solid appearance of muscularity.

Its recommended to take in an extra liter a day. If insufficient water is consumed, it will not work as well. So keeping water intake high is crucial while on creatine. A general rule of thumb for bodybuilders is to get 1 gallon(about 4 Liters) of water per day. This is very vague, however, as different bodybuilders have much different needs. I personally drink more than 2 gallons(7.5 Liters) because of the high altitude I live in I need that much. You should be able to judge how much water you truly need after a few days, and adjust accordingly. Good luck with your goals, and I have no doubt that sufficient water intake will help you more than not.
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Old 03-15-2008, 07:48 PM   #4
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Post sources please! No plagiarizing.

Claims on CEE are anecdotal and can not be scientifically proven.
 
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Old 03-15-2008, 09:02 PM   #5
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So ! Another loading phase is not a requirement?
 
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Old 03-15-2008, 11:39 PM   #6
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No, you do not need to load again. Start at the maintenance stage.
 
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Old 03-16-2008, 10:14 AM   #7
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All right, thanks KM.

Btw, is there any connection between usage of creatine and increasing amount of pimples?
 
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Old 03-16-2008, 11:29 AM   #8
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Not that I've heard of. It could be that you're sweating more as you workout so your skin is getting oily/greasy causing you to get pimples..
 
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I think you're stalking my posts KM, always first to answer but it's nice.
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Old 03-17-2008, 10:23 AM   #10
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Post sources please! No plagiarizing.

Claims on CEE are anecdotal and can not be scientifically proven.

Creatine » The Loading Phase - Creatine loading and use - Creatine Cycling - Creatine Monohydrate

Newsletter - Issue 44 - Creatine Monohydrate vs. Creatine Ethyl Ester
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