[Kaiser]

Hi, I've just purchased ON whey, NoXplode and GNC pro performance creatine monohydrate. I used to take only whey before training, but now I'm confused about the proper way to take them all.

[KM]

ON Whey: Emphasize it post-workout as it's fast digesting. Think of it more of a nutritional supplement rather than a training aid. It can also be taken in the morning as well as pre-workout.

NO Explode: 30-45 minutes prior to training session.

Creatine: Although many members here on the forum aren't fans of this, I feel the loading stage is necessary for complete and faster saturation. Loading phase; 20-25g/day taken evenly throughout the day focusing around whether you take it pre, post workout or both. Maintenance stage; 5-10g/day taken either pre or post-workout or both. Experiment a little.

[<3Frosty]

Something tells me you just dropped over 100 bucks on supplements. And dont really know how to use them...


Listen to KM, he explained it pretty well. Make sure you take the creatine on off days as well. I like to take it first thing in the morning if i remember on off days, usually with some gatorade mix or perhaps even some kinda juice. Some people even suggest taking it with whey protein in the morning as well. Both are good ideas imo. Id suggest lowering your amount on off days though, as i like to take 5-7.5 grams on off days.


You want to cycle off after about 8-10 weeks imo. And stay off for about 3-4 weeks. Then if you want, start up another cycle.

[mm1snapper]

Well lets see... Km explained it well. But i m also on the exact same things right now and this is what i do.

1hour before work out- 2scoops ON whey+5g creatine
15mins before work out- 2scoops Noxplode
Right after wok out- 2scoops ON whey+5g creatine

[ronniesmyhomeboy]

Originally Posted by mm1snapper

15mins before work out- 2scoops Noxplode

I'd give the n.o xplode more time 30 mins at the least, it can make you feel kinda ill if you train too soon. Also it is worth mentioning that the n.o explode has 3 grams of creatine anyway , so you might as well not take extra pre-workout creatine.

[<3Frosty]

Originally Posted by ronniesmyhomeboy

I'd give the n.o xplode more time 30 mins at the least, it can make you feel kinda ill if you train too soon. Also it is worth mentioning that the n.o explode has 3 grams of creatine anyway , so you might as well not take extra pre-workout creatine.

Actually, it has 1 gram of creatine. Where do you get your facts? I got mine from BSN website itself.........

[ronniesmyhomeboy]

Thats per scoop and most people take 2 or 3 so........do the maths

[ronniesmyhomeboy]

Originally Posted by <3Frosty

Actually, it has 1 gram of creatine. Where do you get your facts? I got mine from BSN website itself.........

Also he's clearly an inexperienced guy not knowing how to take all this stuff its's probably best he doesn't overdo it on the creatine. You should probably think a bit more before you come on here and start patronising people.

[KM]

Not saying the same dose works for everyone, but generally speaking you should be taking the recommended dose. This is the purpose and reasoning behind cycling supplements. If you fail to do so, your receptors become tolerant and you spend more money.

Just a though.

[<3Frosty]

Originally Posted by ronniesmyhomeboy

Thats per scoop and most people take 2 or 3 so........do the maths

Most people isnt relevant to a single serving having one gram of creatine.

And this guy is completely new. Telling him no-xplode has 3 grams of creatine without giving the context of most people taking 3 servings only misinforms him.

If you were taking a popular supplement, and someone said it had 3 grams of creatine, you would probably come to the conclusion that every SERVING has 3 grams.



Dont throw a hissy fit because i am trying to help the guy out.

[AVFullBack32]

3 scoops is a serving according to the bottle i have...
it says test tolerance but 3 scoops is recomended serving

[<3Frosty]

That's weird, because on my bottle is says Serving Size: 1 scoop.

Recommended Use To Assess Tolerance: Begin by using 1 scoop.

Recommended Use on Training Days: Once tolerance has been established, use 1-3 scoops.


So while it might be recommended (hey, at 3 scoops, that is 3 times faster you will use up the bottle), it isnt the standard serving size that they go off of for their nutrition facts.

[KM]

^ Cosign..

I just looked it up, and it says the same. That's reasonable, it's logical it would start at 1 scoop. It'd be pointless for BSN to put the essential ingredients through 3 scoops.

- Cycle the supplement. Your receptors will always build a tolerance, but you can control that. The more efficient you cycle it, the less of a tolerance you build and the less money you spend.

[<3Frosty]

And lets be honest here, if you need 3 scoops to feel the effects of this product, you might want to look at just completely stopping or cycling off it like KM said. At 3 scoops a serving, that is pretty wasteful for a product that isnt exactly cheap.

It might also be because of your own caffeine consumption, as your body QUICKLY builds a tolerance to caffeine.

[ronniesmyhomeboy]

The thing is its best not to take 1 scoop on training days like it says, thereby saving a good deal, so in retrospect taking 3 you would be using as much as if you took 2 scoops training, 1 scoop non training. So hes better off taking 3 before training, rather than using one on non training days and increasing the speed he builds up tolerance. The point im making is he shouldnt take pre-workout creatine with it at this stage and you should be less of an anal nob.

[<3Frosty]

Originally Posted by ronniesmyhomeboy

The thing is its best not to take 1 scoop on training days like it says, thereby saving a good deal, so in retrospect taking 3 you would be using as much as if you took 2 scoops training, 1 scoop non training. So hes better off taking 3 before training, rather than using one on non training days and increasing the speed he builds up tolerance. The point im making is he shouldnt take pre-workout creatine with it at this stage and you should be less of an anal nob.

The point im making and you keep glazing over is the fact that i was trying to help the guy, not confuse him by making statements without proper pre-text.

[ronniesmyhomeboy]

You where trying to help the guy out, by asking me where i got my facts from, sure......so what was i doing by making sure he didnt overdo it on the creatine. I sure as hell wasnt making pointless and anal statements that mean nothing to him.

[<3Frosty]

Circle logic works fine if you want to continue with it by urself.

[ronniesmyhomeboy]

thats a ****ty attempt at claiming the moral high ground

[Zack]

why are you two fighting like little girls?

The guy should have all the info he needs now thanks to everybody here on the forum. KM did a good job, Frosty did a decent job, and Ronnie'sHomeboy did a job that was at least kinda helpful....

also, I see no point in taking 5g of creatine pre-workout. This doesn't really do anything for me, but that may just be me. It seems pointless.

[ronniesmyhomeboy]

Originally Posted by ZackKnight

also, I see no point in taking 5g of creatine pre-workout. This doesn't really do anything for me, but that may just be me. It seems pointless.

Thank You

[<3Frosty]

Zack, you make a good point that it seems pointless. But, for arguments sake, people have claimed they perceive better effects by taking at least some creatine pre-workout, specifically a normal serving of monohydrate.

And, we all should know that different things at different times works for some and not all.

[Zack]

I completely agree with you man. I was talking more from my own perspective just like everybody else. You're right, and we both have said it before. It's an individual sport. Also, we can both bring something to the table like we always do and show each side of it. Good job dude.

[slammer]

i think ronnieismyhomeboy has a point....NO-explode, with 3 scoops, would have 3gs of creatine and considering this guy sounds relatively new to it, it would make sense to start with a lower amount of creatine and then start adding 5g post workout when he feels ready.

[<3Frosty]

Originally Posted by slammer

i think ronnieismyhomeboy has a point....NO-explode, with 3 scoops, would have 3gs of creatine and considering this guy sounds relatively new to it, it would make sense to start with a lower amount of creatine and then start adding 5g post workout when he feels ready.

Would someone just starting out on NO-Xplode really be taking 3 servings just to see an effect? I stand by the idea that at 3 scoops pre-workout just to see an effect is a waste of money. You might as well look for something else or work on eliminating caffeine in your diet.

Maybe as KM suggested, cycle off it. But, if he is new and using 3 scoops pre-workout to see an effect, what a waste of money imo.


If you do take 3 servings pre-workout, you should continue using creatine on your off days IMO. At least 5 grams imo.

[KM]

Without previously taking the product, people could be naturally tolerant. If that is the case, and (thread maker) is aware of his tolerance, then there is an exception. However, there is no magic number of scoops someone should take, like said frequently, everyone's different.

Great point Frosty. Caffeine and nitric oxide cancel eachother out, so that could delay or hide the reaction you get from it.

3 scoops for a first dose, is rare and and generally not the norm. Imo, the creatine in the Nitric Oxide is insufficient to what it is supposed to. So I feel the 5g pre workout should still be taken...Just my two cents.

[<3Frosty]

The effectiveness of CEM3 (Creatine Ethyl Ester Malate) is arguable, as is the effectiveness of almost anything not named creatine monohydrate. Ethyl Ester is usually taken in around 3-4 gram doses from what i remember.

I find it funny that a mini tussle of words occured and the OP hasnt posted back once.