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Old 03-13-2008, 05:08 PM   #1
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I hear rumours from people at the Gym and my sources at the supplement shop that there is a new creatine in the works combining Beta-Alanine, Creatine Monohydrate and Carnosine. Supposedly due out this fall or you can make your on stack of course.

Beta-Alanine vs. Creatine
When beta-alanine enters the muscle cell, it becomes what we call the "rate limiting substrate" to carnosine synthesis. By rate limiting, we mean that without beta-alanine, carnosine does not get produced.

So why is carnosine so important? Carnosine is a dipeptide found mainly in fast-twitch muscles whose primary function, as far as you and I are concerned, is buffering hydrogen ions (H+).

Buffer H+, and you prevent pH levels in muscle from dropping to low levels (more acidic). Low acidity creates that "burn" in your muscles, causing fatigue and forcing you to muscular failure (also known as the end of your set). In a more acidic environment ATP is less effective and the release of calcium, a key component to muscle contraction, is hindered substantially.

With higher carnosine levels in muscle, however, you can prevent the drop in pH. With H+ buffered, you continue to squeeze out reps, prolong a high intensity run, or you simply lift heavier weights for more reps. When you working out, your carnosine levels will eventually plateau, and they aren't going to get any higher with more training. They can only be increased with beta-alanine supplementation.

Study on the effects of beta-alanine and/or creatine supplementation on physical working capacity at fatigue threshold (PWCFT) in untrained young men. The male subjects (19 — 30 years) consumed either:

1) 1.6g of beta-alanine 4 times per day for 6 days, then 3.2 grams per day for 22 days.

2) 5g creatine monohydrate 4 times per day for 6 days, then 10 grams per day for 22 days.

3) Beta-alanine and creatine Combo.

4) Placebo (maltodextrin).

The results revealed a 28.8%, 11.3%, and 11.0% increase in PWCFT for the beta-alanine, creatine, and the combo, respectively. Very Impressive! Beta-Alanine increased PWCFT 61% greater than creatine on just roughly 3.2 grams a day.

Bottom line: creatine just got its ass kicked when it comes to delaying fatigue!

There is another creatine plus beta-alanine study in which they found a nearly 40% increase in power output, significantly higher than the roughly 8% gains made by the creatine-only group.

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this seems pretty interesting. imma have to do some more research about this new type of creatine.
 
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Isnt Beta-Alanine the stuff that makes your skin crawl?
 
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Old 03-14-2008, 11:48 AM   #4
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About 5 to 10 minutes after you drink down Protein Slam (or our new Pro GF with beta-Alanine), you may notice that your skin has begun to tingle or itch in certain spots. Do not panic! This is a normal body reaction to beta-Alanine consumption. We have talked with people who didn’t expect such a reaction when they tried beta-Alanine for the first time. They thought that they were experiencing an allergic reaction. This is simply not the case. For reasons not completely understood, a natural part of consuming a sufficient dose of beta-Alanine is a skin tingling reaction once the beta-Alanine is absorbed into the bloodstream. No pain, no gain?There are several theories put forth for the skin tingle (termed paraesthesia in medical circles). One theory states that the tingling is caused by Beta-Alanine binding to nerve receptors, exciting the nerves and causing them to fire off at random. Many of these nerves are situated just below the skin’s surface, resulting in a prickling/pins-and-needles sensation at certain skin locations. Another theory holds that beta-Alanine is a nitric oxide potentiator. No, beta-Alanine does not generate nitric oxide - it potentiates (magnifies) nitric oxide function, making its effects stronger and longer lasting. So, when you consume beta-Alanine, wherever your body is making nitric oxide at that point in time, the beta-Alanine will magnify the nitric oxide effect and you will feel extra blood flowing through the capillaries close to your skin surface (it is because of the beneficial nitric oxide magnifying effect of beta-Alanine that we suggest consuming beta-Alanine immediately prior to working out in the form of our Protein Slam).



Whatever the actual cause, don’t panic when you feel the skin tingle from beta-Alanine. You are not having an allergic reaction. In fact, it can be said that if you don’t feel at least a slight skin tingle after consuming beta-Alanine, that you didn’t get a sufficient dose. The intensity of the skin tingling varies, depending on dose and individual sensitivity. The skin tingling usually lasts for 30 minutes to one hour, perhaps longer in more sensitive people. Caffeine can magnify the skin tingling effects. Unlike Niacin and nicotinic acid, beta-Alanine will not cause your skin to turn red. You may have read about a beta-Alanine “flush” but it doesn’t happen in actual fact. This is just another gym legend started by people who insist that the skin tingling must be accompanied by a red skin flush. Rest assured, beta-Alanine will not make you look like a lobster. After a few weeks of daily consumption of beta-Alanine, you will become more accustomed to the skin tingling sensation and won’t be bothered by it as much. In spite of the skin tingling, beta-Alanine is certainly a supplement ingredient worth taking daily if you want to increase muscular endurance and delay muscle fatigue.

Taken from: Beta-Alanine: Why Does My Skin Tingle After I take It? :: CNP Professional
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Oh right i wondered about that, thanks. Still sounds kinda dodgy them not knowing what causes the tingling though.
 
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