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Old 02-18-2008, 07:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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i am currently 150 lbs and 21yrs old and i've been trying to gain weight this fall/winter. im about 10% BF. i do a 5 day training regiment, chest, back, legs, shoulders, bi's/tri's. i do cardio on average three times a week for about 30 mins and i do calisthenics before every workout(3 sets of 10 pullups/10 dips/10 incline pushups). i like my training cycle but is there a better way to train for mass? also im currently only taking animal pak's Animal Pump 1 hr before each workout. i wanted to know, what i should be taking in terms of supp's to gain weight? i did a search and didn't find anything that pertains to me directly. My goal weight is 185. i'm determined and i bust my ass in the gym. looking for guidance brothers. thx in advance...

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Old 02-18-2008, 07:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hows your diet? If you dont now what you need as far as macro split calories ect... Use this site. And enter in the weight you want to get to because i believe its a little off. And you should eat for the weight you wanna be at.

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Drop the calistenics. There is no need for them...

And your training imo is a waste. Arms dont need there own day. So put chest and tris together, back and bi's.
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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you want a mass builder i.e pro mass or on serass mass ,creatin ,glutmine and bcaa and flax seed oil
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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m1snapper why a whey protein he is wanting to put weight on bro so he needs some thing with a lot of crabs in
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:16 PM   #5 (permalink)
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m1snapper why a whey protein he is wanting to put weight on bro so he needs some thing with a lot of crabs in
I agree man but if you look weight gainers are usually a blend of many different proteins. And contain casein which will slow digestion. And if you read he didnt mention taking anything but animal crap. And you should now right after a work out you should consume a fast digetion protein such as whey.

He could use a gainer for a meal replacement. But he should start with the basic supp stack imo. He will see gains.
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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i started with a weight gainer and now i am 210lbs natural but i do agree with you about a fast acting protein after training we all so need to see his deit so we could help to its not all about supps
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:21 PM   #7 (permalink)
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True that man. Diet is key...
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:22 PM   #8 (permalink)
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if you eat right you will gain muscle the supps are to boost some of the stuff
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:26 PM   #9 (permalink)
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my diet as of now is this:
breakfast - 2 bowls of cereal
2 hrs later - 3 whole eggs, 2 pieces of cheese, 2 pieces of bacon, 2 15 grain whole wheat bread
2 hrs later - big bowl of pasta w/ a newman's own sauce
1 hr later - animal pump, 45-1 hr later = training
45-1 later - steak and pasta
2 hrs or so later - chicken or steak with mashed potatoes

slight variations but that for the most part is my diet right now. in college and on a sort of budget.
 
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:32 PM   #10 (permalink)
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this what it should be like
meal 1. porage oats

meal 2. 4 egg whites 1 egg yoke or a chicken breast with brown rice

meal 3. 100 grams of pasta and 2 cans of tuna

forget the animal pump crap you dont need it

after you train whey protein like what as been said

meal 4. chicken or turkey with brown rice
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:35 PM   #11 (permalink)
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You need protein to grow and you arent getting any.You need a minimum of 200 grams a day of protein at your weight.You need to split it up between all your meals and make sure to consume at least 25 of it within 30 mins of working out preferrably in the form of a shake.If thats reg pasta you might pack on more fat than anything I would stick with whole wheat pasta and sweet potatoes and brown rice.Lift heavy as hell stay in the 8 rep range.
Might need to change your routine around some.Also Might want to drop the cardio for a while or maybe just do 15 mins a day 3 x a week.
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Wow well covered guys. I dont think i even need to say anything.

Whey before and after workout though.
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:41 PM   #13 (permalink)
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how should i change my training routine around? also what whey protien before and after? should i take ON?
 
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yup take on whey protein you wanna chage you training to eather 4 day split or 3 day split
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can u give me an example with the actual split w/ exercises and time between sets.
 
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also, u guys said to drop the animal pump. what supps should i take?

ie. company/product

sorry about the double post but im anxious to change things and make progress while doing things correctly.
 
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my split will differ from like snappers but you can pick one
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I do abs 3 days a week
This is my bulking routine it differs now because I am cutting and getting ready fo my next show
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Old 02-18-2008, 08:29 PM   #18 (permalink)
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also, u guys said to drop the animal pump. what supps should i take?

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im anxious to change things and make progress while doing things correctly.
so which supplements?
 
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Dont worry about supps as much as your food.
But all you really need is Protein whey during the day def before and after your workout but get some casien for right before bed.You could even do some creatine but youll lose most of the gains when you come off.eat lean beef ,steak and chicken.Some samples of other meals would be some natural peanut butter on whole wheat bread with a glass of milk.
eat big -lift big=grow big
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many thanks brothers. im going to start my own log and keep track of meals and lifting details. i'll let u guys know about my progress somehow if thats ok.

thanks again for the advice. looking forward to becoming the next zane. lol jk but it is motivational.
 
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