[GRAVESY079]

i have always tried the new products, but it is time to start budgeting my supplements, ( only thing looking to try that is new -plasmajet for gaspari and muscle rush from Ads - that is once they are available off the shelves of gnc).

what main stays should i stick with. thinking of sticking to ON's protein, multi and bcaa, and maybe every once n awhile a N.O. product. Anything else more essential than the others.??

[KM]

Originally Posted by GRAVESY079

i have always tried the new products, but it is time to start budgeting my supplements, ( only thing looking to try that is new -plasmajet for gaspari and muscle rush from Ads - that is once they are available off the shelves of gnc).

what main stays should i stick with. thinking of sticking to ON's protein, multi and bcaa, and maybe every once n awhile a N.O. product. Anything else more essential than the others.??

Protein product: ON 100% Whey
BCAA product: Xtend, ON BCAA's
Multi Vitamin product: Your choice.

An N.O. product isn't essential, neither is any of these supplements. It's personal preference which brand you want. I try to go for a more reputable brand- ON, BSN, Cytosport, etc.

What's your diet like?

[robbyybt]

Ditch the NO all-together and buy some creatine mono instead, its cheaper, last longer and is alot more beneficial for you. KM has covered everything else you need to know

[KM]

Originally Posted by robbyybt

Ditch the NO all-together and buy some creatine mono instead, its cheaper, last longer and is alot more beneficial for you. KM has covered everything else you need to know

Thanks, yeah forgot about Creatine. Good catch.

[GRAVESY079]

I have used creatine before and never really got anything from it, I think i am one of those that just do not get the benefit form it. i took it post work out at the time with a carb complex and powder gatorade mix(for flavor).


my diet is pretty scratchy, do to my job. i tend to stay away from the fast digesting carbs, since i have fat around the midsection that i need to lose.

breakfast is usually light, if at all, try to get oatmeal but usually 24grms of protein and maybe a fruit.

lunch usually chicken or steak paired with either broccolli or spinch

pre work out 24grm ON'swhey
post 60grms ON's Pro Complex

dinner is usually steak chicken or turkey with brown rice, sweet potato, or veggie mix

prior to bed mix of whey/egg 24 grms each.

Tuna fish here and there.

looking to get new job so i will have more freedom to prepare and stick to a solid diet.

[Tall HardGainer]

creatine is good and I am a fan of no products, especially because by giving your body a better pump you are allowing for faster shuttling of nutrients to the muscles you just worked out when you get your post workout shake in (due to protein synthesis). Since there is a larger pathway of blood circulating the nutrients get there faster and more effeciently/effectively. KM did cover everything else, add them together, you got a good cycle.

[robbyybt]

Originally Posted by GRAVESY079

I have used creatine before and never really got anything from it, I think i am one of those that just do not get the benefit form it. i took it post work out at the time with a carb complex and powder gatorade mix(for flavor).

What kind of creatine did you take and when?

I was the same at first, i had creatine mono and then cellmass and didnt feel anything. I then changed the timing and dose of the creatine mono and now have had some good results.

[GRAVESY079]

Originally Posted by robbyybt

What kind of creatine did you take and when?

I was the same at first, i had creatine mono and then cellmass and didnt feel anything. I then changed the timing and dose of the creatine mono and now have had some good results.

Last time i took it was prbly from jan07 to late spring/earlysummer07.. I was using AST's micronizd Creatine monohydrate mixing with protein factory carb mix and once i ran out of that it was hard to find i switched to MAxMuscle CarboMax, both with a scoop of gatorade pwder mix post workout.

maybe i should try a creatine that is already paired with a transport in the product instead of trying to create one myself?

[robbyybt]

You dont need to take creatine with anything. Just water or juice. Also try taking it at different times at different servings. I personally take 10g pre and none post. TallHardGainer takes 10g post with none pre. We just use what works best for us so youll need to experiment and find what works for you.

[GRAVESY079]

thanks guys,

i quess i will give creatine, another shot. Prbly start it up back again come the start of March, and play around with the dose and timing.

[<3Frosty]

Originally Posted by robbyybt

You dont need to take creatine with anything. Just water or juice. Also try taking it at different times at different servings. I personally take 10g pre and none post. TallHardGainer takes 10g post with none pre. We just use what works best for us so youll need to experiment and find what works for you.

I disagree with the water part for creatine monohydrate. For the ethyl esters and the other formulas, maybe. But for creatine monohydrate, id suggest taking it with at least a juice. What i liked to do was mix creatine with my post workout shake. So, whey, dextrose, banana, and creatine. All mixed up and done. All of those should provide sufficient amounts of transportation, if not above and beyond.


For you, maybe some creatine, banana, and whey...

[robbyybt]

Originally Posted by <3Frosty