Creatine Yes.No?

warrior111 · 02-09-2008, 01:47 AM

i would like to ask every one who reads this and knows anything bout creatine or have used it before to comment on there experience with it
Yes or No?, also the pros and cons

thank you

Warrior

<3Frosty · 02-09-2008, 01:50 AM

Yes. Great results.

Pros- greatness

Cons- have to drink lots of water.

**Freak** · 02-09-2008, 02:41 AM

Best supplement on the market imo and no sides except a little more urination.

KM · 02-09-2008, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by <3Frosty

Yes. Great results.

Pros- greatness

Cons- have to drink lots of water.

You should be drinking large amounts of water, with or without Creatine. Great product. I'd recommend Creatine Monohydrate apposed from a Formula. Cheaper and more effective for the coin.

**Thomas_Rivera** · 02-09-2008, 03:21 AM

Pros - Use it
Cons- Cant get it through the security check at the state pen.

**robbyybt** · 02-09-2008, 06:36 AM

YES definetly, just make sure you start off with creatine mono as KM has said.

**chrispghmuscle** · 02-09-2008, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomas_Rivera

Pros - Use it
Cons- Cant get it through the security check at the state pen.

LOL---suggestion, summon the spider...ooooooooooooooooooooooo

terp · 02-09-2008, 09:51 AM

Pros- you swell up a bit, possible strength increase
Cons- D/N work for everybody & not recommended for individuals w/ compromised kidney function

I take it semi-regularly & don't think the difference is dramatic if there's any at all. however, mono is cheap enough that I can say give it a try. you're not out much if it D/N work for you.

BigPoppaSnake · 02-09-2008, 10:51 AM

Get the unflavored ones, you can mix it in with your protein shake at the same time

**under construction** · 02-09-2008, 12:04 PM

Just started taking this supp on just about everyones advice. Im on my 4th week and I got to be honest I feel nothing from it no increased strength or WO endurance. Maybe I need to take it longer for the price I might as well. If I still feel nothing Ill try another brand next time if there is still no noticable effects then in the crapper with this one LOL. In the 20 years Ive been training Ive seen so many must have supps come and go never to be heard of again and others that show up and go on a five year cycle and things like this that I try to stay an immune as possible from the placebo effect. Sometimes thing work so good on paper and loose it in the real world its a shame. Sorry guys I know you all love this stuff but in the interest of honesty I gotta call it as I see it and on this one the jury is still out and I am still going to give it every oppurtunity to work if it does some where down the line Ill be the first to admit that I was wrong see when you are married you get really good at it. LMAO!

<3Frosty · 02-09-2008, 12:33 PM

Yes, you should be drinking a gallon or so a day anyways, but you have to actually watch it when taking creatine IMO, as its effectiveness is increased and you can help it from potentially causing any liver problems. So, you MUST drink about a gallon a day as opposed to should be.

Also, the other draw back is that some people dont respond to creatine from what i have heard. And then there are people who get horrible bloated feeling when taking it. I have mainly taken CEE, but CM is supposed to have no flavor in bulk and i just got some EAS Phosphagen (sp?) so im looking forward to starting back up on creatine.

From my knowledge, creatine isnt just something that recently came about and became big. Its been around for over 10 years and has been one of the body building staples, much like a multivitamin and whey.

Terp is right as well. The only people i know of that have had health problems from CM are people with existing liver problems.

**under construction** · 02-09-2008, 12:57 PM

dessicated liver tablets and brewers yeast have been around for fifty years and were the power stack when my old man use to train they are still around today and used still by some but most people dont reguard it as the holy grail stack anymore. These were for more than 10 years in their hay day though. The young guys might not like to her this I know I didnt when I was young but sometimes you just have to get old and watch things come and go. Not saying that its going to but when you guy start closing in on 40 you might and I stress the word might look back on your creatine experience and think what was I thinking much like the old folks like me do when we look and our dessicated liver and brewers yeast experience. The effects of these supps work good on paper too.

**Freak** · 02-09-2008, 03:53 PM

Creatine is one of the most researched supplements on the market!

**chrispghmuscle** · 02-09-2008, 05:30 PM

OK I'll bite,, Under Construction, how old are you buddy?

**robbyybt** · 02-09-2008, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by under construction

Just started taking this supp on just about everyones advice. Im on my 4th week and I got to be honest I feel nothing from it no increased strength or WO endurance.

Try taking it at different doses and at different times, i was the same when i started taking it. I took 5g pre and 5g post and didint see any results. Then i changed to 10g pre and none post and have seen quite good results from it, most of my lifts have gone up dramatically although it wont all be down to creatine, but im sure it has helped alot

**under construction** · 02-09-2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by robbyybt

Try taking it at different doses and at different times, i was the same when i started taking it. I took 5g pre and 5g post and didint see any results. Then i changed to 10g pre and none post and have seen quite good results from it, most of my lifts have gone up dramatically although it wont all be down to creatine, but im sure it has helped alot

sure Ill try whatever is suggested I would like it if this worked Hell Id like anything that worked for that matter. I just dont want to mistake placebo for true results and let me say again I am not giving up on it yet I will finish this tub and buy another if no results from this brand another brand I have not passed judgment yet just reporting thus far .I would be a fool to discount it this early in the game but I dont feel like concurring with everyone else if Im not being honest. All suggestions will be used short of shaking out the powder in my eyeball if this is an effective tool I want it in my arsenal. Chris buddy 39 training seriously since 18 screwing around since 14 at least cuz my whole family did it. Its a long time to watch stuff come and go makes you kind of sinacle.

arcangel · 02-09-2008, 08:18 PM

For creatine, I always take it as part of a multi suppliment. I use maximuscle cyclon. Its not just the creatine you need, but other stuff that goes with it like glucose to help it absorb. Its not as effective if you just take it in isolation. Creatine helps you recover quicker. I would say you can do an extra day per week with the same recovery. I do a 5 day routine and I am 40. I could only do 4 days a week without creatine.

arcangel · 02-09-2008, 08:19 PM

A few people above mention liver supps. Please be careful with liver supps as too much vit A is bad news. Liver has a boat load of vit A and protien shakes have some more and multi vit tablets add more still.

**under construction** · 02-09-2008, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by arcangel

For creatine, I always take it as part of a multi suppliment. I use maximuscle cyclon. Its not just the creatine you need, but other stuff that goes with it like glucose to help it absorb. Its not as effective if you just take it in isolation. Creatine helps you recover quicker. I would say you can do an extra day per week with the same recovery. I do a 5 day routine and I am 40. I could only do 4 days a week without creatine.

my problem may be from lack of glucose. How bad does a keto diet effect this?

arcangel · 02-09-2008, 09:09 PM

I would think that is your problem. With creatine you need a lot of water, decent carbs and glucose. I used to try individual sups, like a glutamine tablet and a L-alamin tablet. But the all in one powders have the lot and all at the best ratio.

**under construction** · 02-09-2008, 09:23 PM

I do get a lot of water have increased it since starting creatine. If it requires an abundance of carbs this is my problem. I never ran into this fact while reaserching it ove rthe last couple of months so thanks. As far as all in ones I tend to stay away from these cuz its hard to know whats really working for you and if asked you can never really give a solid answer - UC

arcangel · 02-09-2008, 09:35 PM

Carbs help with water retention and thats what creatine does(amongst other things). It loads your muscles with water so the anabolic process can work better. I have a highish level of carbs as I drink a lot of milk. The creatine mix I use also has a lot of glucose. I know that chemically you need glucose for creatine to properly work and from experience higher carbs help to build muscle. For example, if you dont have enough carbs your body uses protein to produce glycol for energy, so by having more carbs, the protein is free to build muscle.

<3Frosty · 02-09-2008, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by arcangel

For creatine, I always take it as part of a multi suppliment. I use maximuscle cyclon. Its not just the creatine you need, but other stuff that goes with it like glucose to help it absorb. Its not as effective if you just take it in isolation. Creatine helps you recover quicker. I would say you can do an extra day per week with the same recovery. I do a 5 day routine and I am 40. I could only do 4 days a week without creatine.

I dont think i have ever known anyone to take creatine without anything else.

It has to have some way to be transported into your muscles.

arcangel · 02-09-2008, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by <3Frosty

I dont think i have ever known anyone to take creatine without anything else.

It has to have some way to be transported into your muscles.

There was a post further up where he used creatine tablets I beleive in isolation and saw no results. I made the point that glucose and carbs help with creatine.

steeda123 · 02-09-2008, 10:40 PM

I have been taking creatine mono for quite some time. Excellent results, I have heard that you should cycle it due to the strain on the liver. Not sure if this is true or not but I do it anyway.

KM · 02-10-2008, 01:05 AM

Either way, you should cycle it. Effects begin to lose out if consistant dosing of it occurs. Meaning it begins to stop working, which will mean more money will be spent. Either or, cycle Creatine.

mindgame · 02-10-2008, 01:44 AM

yes on creatine..pros- its one of the best/most selling sup ever cause it works.
cons-some people get the bubble guts and drinkin alot of water

**robbyybt** · 02-10-2008, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by arcangel

For creatine, I always take it as part of a multi suppliment. I use maximuscle cyclon. Its not just the creatine you need, but other stuff that goes with it like glucose to help it absorb. Its not as effective if you just take it in isolation. Creatine helps you recover quicker. I would say you can do an extra day per week with the same recovery. I do a 5 day routine and I am 40. I could only do 4 days a week without creatine.

imo you should get off that as soon as possible. Maximuscle are the same as muscle tech, the products work - but your paying £££ over what you should. I use to take all thier products aswell and was paying over £100 a month and it wasnt even a good stack either (and thats with the 20% "team maximuscle" discount). Now its like £50 a month at most because ive switched products.

arcangel · 02-10-2008, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by robbyybt

imo you should get off that as soon as possible. Maximuscle are the same as muscle tech, the products work - but your paying £££ over what you should. I use to take all thier products aswell and was paying over £100 a month and it wasnt even a good stack either (and thats with the 20% "team maximuscle" discount). Now its like £50 a month at most because ive switched products.

What products did you switch too? I am on £100 a month at the moment and I really need to cut back.

There is a product from Holland and Barret called L-carnitine its in liquid form which makes a change from all those capsules. It turns fat into fatty acids for energy and it really works. I can go the the gym for 3 hours including walking there and have the energy for a good work out.

That well advertised NOS preworkout powder looks good but I dont have the cash at the moment.

**robbyybt** · 02-10-2008, 12:47 PM

I buy 2 lots of Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey 5LBS Gold Standard and Buy Inner Armour Micronized Creatine Monohydrate from Â£10.39 the 1kg with 200g free one. I know thats more than £50 but the creatine will last for ages and the whey might last longer depending on how much you use. The ON whey has BCAAs and glutamine which is also in maximuscles cyclone, the only thing you arnt getting is the HMB but that hasnt even been shown to work so your not missing anything.

Hope this helps mate