[verdantlife]

I've read that for the pre-sleep protein supplement, it's better to take casein instead of whey, as casein is more of a slow-metabolizer (2-7 hours).

Anyone have a favorite brand they'd care to recommend?

Preferably something that doesn't taste too disgusting...Nectar doesn't seem to make a casein...

[Tall HardGainer]

ON Casein is great! MHP Also makes one too

[AnaBrolic]

Definately ON Gold Standard 100% Casein.

I live and die by it

[T.O]

Optimum Nutrition is my favorite. I like there vanilla

[AnaBrolic]

yeah same man. Vanilla is definately the best. I usually have some peanut butter before bed as well so when you mix them together it makes a pretty good combo. Chocolate isn't the greatest tasting but it is definately bearable, I've never liked Banana creme flavoured anything so that's up for you to decide.

One thing i would recommend is mixing it with water, or if you are mixing it with milk definately add a bit of water in as well, because it becomes very thick and almost milkshake-like

[T.O]

^^^^cosign

[brickcity20]

i am currently on a cutting cycle and m taking isopure, omega complex with hydroxycut hardcore(gona switch to lipo 6x prettty soon) and i get really hungry b4 i go to bed. i eat a lot of fruits esp oranges instead of carbs at night so i was wondering if casein would be a good thing for me or not?? will it make it gain weight and obstruct my cutting cycle?? m also trying to stay away from products that have sugar.

[musclemaniac uk]

if you're trying to stay away from sugar then you shouldn't be having much fruit, especially whilst trying to cut and especially at night.

[T.O]

Originally Posted by brickcity20

i am currently on a cutting cycle and m taking isopure, omega complex with hydroxycut hardcore(gona switch to lipo 6x prettty soon) and i get really hungry b4 i go to bed. i eat a lot of fruits esp oranges instead of carbs at night so i was wondering if casein would be a good thing for me or not?? will it make it gain weight and obstruct my cutting cycle?? m also trying to stay away from products that have sugar.

Yeah cut the fruit if you trying to stay away from sugar. Casein I think will be very good for you during a cut. Casein is a good tool to fight your muscles going into a catabolic state while your sleeping ecspecialy during a cut.

[AnaBrolic]

yeah I agree, if you're cutting you should stay away from the fruit at night, if you're gonna be eating carbs at night veggies are usually best.

I also agree that Casein helps fight catabolism during the night, its also good to have a slow obsorbing protein during the night to help your muscles recover, especially since much of the recovery process takes place at night

[apurplehaze08]

You may also want to look into Syntha-6 from BSN. As I understand, it is a blend of 6 proteins so you're getting whey and casein. I dont know the exact ratio but it tastes amazing.

[Tall HardGainer]

^^Cosign with all, ditch the fruit, if you still want to have some fruit, only in the AM or early afternoon, and keep it to only a little (like an apple or something). I take ON Casein and it is helping with my appetite, what I like to do is mix chocolate with nat. PB and it tastes like a Reese's, which is great for me because other than pizza and chinese food, reese's is a real weakness for me.

[auburnman1]

probolic-sr makes a pretty good casein protein. the chocolate tastes really good, but i haven't tryed any of the other flavors.

[Tall HardGainer]

yeah I have had it too, pretty good actually, but haven't ventured out from chocolate though either.

[brickcity20]

anybody ever try creamy vanilla flavor?? is it good wit water?? m taking isopure vanilla flavor with water and its not bad at all..

[AnaBrolic]

Vanilla ON Casein is awesome bud. I would highly suggest it.
Personally I like it better than the chocolate, which I didn't really enjoy drinking on its own. But I bought my first tub of vanilla last week and I absolutely love it, and will probably stick with it for a long time

[mm1snapper]

Originally Posted by quackattack

Vanilla ON Casein is awesome bud. I would highly suggest it.
Personally I like it better than the chocolate, which I didn't really enjoy drinking on its own. But I bought my first tub of vanilla last week and I absolutely love it, and will probably stick with it for a long time

Lol i honestly wish i asked before buying 4x4lb tubs of chocolate. I would have got 2 and 2 and mixed Honestly never been a big vianilla guy but i think i would rather bare that then the chocolate! YUCK!!!!

[chrispghmuscle]

Synta-6,,,chocolate,,,yummmmmmmmmmooooooooooooo

[Tall HardGainer]

see I am not a huge vanilla fan, something about it seems to taste weird to me, I also just got in some ON French Vanilla Whey, kinda good, but I only mix my shakes with water, so again, sort of a weird taste, I am sure it would taste much better with milk.

[AnaBrolic]

I just got the exact same thing, ON French Vanilla and I love it...then again it is all preference...ON has tonnes of flavours for their 100% whey so it shouldnt be an issue trying to find one you like

[mm1snapper]

Originally Posted by Tall HardGainer

see I am not a huge vanilla fan, something about it seems to taste weird to me, I also just got in some ON French Vanilla Whey, kinda good, but I only mix my shakes with water, so again, sort of a weird taste, I am sure it would taste much better with milk.

Hell ya man im with you! Vanilla is just weird tasting to me. I wouldnt mind trying chocolate and vanilla mixed for a change though. All my proteins are chocolate!!! But i do have one 10lb bag of strawberry:) I think im going to sams this weekend so ill trade in some of the choc for vanilla.

[Tall HardGainer]

i'm not sure how that would taste, I love the taste of strawberry and banana mixed, and chocolate and strawberry isn't bad either, almost like a chocolate covered strawberry.

[verdantlife]

I got some Probolic-SR. Orange Creme flavor is...well...let's just say it's a "man up" moment. Actually, not as bad as some crap I've tried, but it's no Nectar. Nectar is awesome. I'll try the Probolic chocolate next time...someone told me it tastes like chocolate cake batter.

So my protein regimen is:

- Nectar in the morning (90 cals, 23g whey)
- A New Whey liquid protein for lunch (100 cals, 25g whey/casein/soy mix)
- Nectar post-workout
- Probolic-SR before bed (130 cals, 20g protein)

So that's 91g, plus another 60-70 from food. It's about 1g per pound of LBM. I think that spreads out the protein throughout the day.

BTW, I love that New Whey liquid protein...it's like taking a shot in terms of speed, tastes good, and is a good protein vs. cals ratio. Only problem is it's about $3 a dose, so I just take it for my lunch at work.

I try to keep my carbs in my breakfast and lunch, and have a banana as a pre-workout snack. It's hard to get enough potassium in one's diet...

[Tall HardGainer]

very true, who makes your shot of protein?

[Tall HardGainer]

Hey Orbit, you carry that stuff right

[verdantlife]

The liquid protein is by New Whey. I'd post a link but I don't have 15 posts yet so I can't include a link ;-)

It's either 25g for 100 cals or 42g for 176 cals. Mix of whey/soy/casein. The Vitamin $hoppe has them and of course there are cheaper places online. I picked up a couple to try out...

It's literally shot-sized - 3 ounces in a sealed hard plastic container. If it wasn't for the cost, I'd drink 'em more.

[Tall HardGainer]

I will look into them, thanks!

[T.O]

Yes we do I believe its made by IDS right. Also I am looking in to this amino product from All American EFX. This product has had good review. A little expensive but you can cut you protein intake down. Check it out.

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[Tall HardGainer]

great post orbit, will definatley look into it. And yes the other one was by IDS

[rpen22]

No love for Xtreme Formulations' Ultra Peptide??

That's definitely my favorite casein-based blend.