[ActionJackson96]

Well, im an amateur USABA boxer. I want to gain a little mass but not bulk up. So, i decided to add a little weight lifting to my plyometrics regime. So, I have a bowflex and doing most of my workout on it. So first, what do you think about workingout on a bowflex for size?? Second, im limited to free weights, and the town that i live in doesnt have a gym/ymca. What can i incorp to help me gain some mass. Thirdly, im starting a stack and i hope im going all the right way about doing it.

-Controlled labs Green bulge (creatine)
-Controlled labs White blood (NO)
-Controlled labs Glycergrow
-Controlled labs Purple wraath (EAA)
-Controlled labs blue up (test booster)
-IDS whey protein isolate
-L glutemine
-B12 vit, flaxseed oil, and multivitamin


and i have been debating on starting SPAWN by Myogenics (its a prohormone) but im not sure if it will show up on a drug test for my boxing physical?? Also, does anyone know if these supplements will show up on a drug test?? I know the test booster will show an increase of test but will any of the others raise a red flag???? THanks!!!

[ActionJackson96]

My stats...6'3, 168 lbs.

[Tall HardGainer]

the prohormone will show up on your drug test, and the test booster might be of cocern because they will show that you have high test levels, which will lead to the assumption of steroids of sorts. Everything else sounds pretty solid, how is your diet looking, that is really the major factor you need to be concerned about, because diet is really key to muscle growth and function.

[ActionJackson96]

well, i drink about 3 gallons of water throughout the day. I eat plenty of chicken, walnuts, granola, fruits, and organic salads.
But, with my work...I usually eat fast food about 5 times a week. (mcdonalds, sonic...)
The hardest part of my diet is that I dont eat 6 meals a day...its more like 2-3 meals.
What can you help with on improving my diet???
Thanks for all the help!!!

[Tall HardGainer]

first of all get rid of ALL fast food from your diet. You definately need to concentrate on eating every 2-3 hours to get the necessary amount of nutrients in your body. At 6'3" and weighing on 168 thats VERY light for your size, I am 6'5" and before I started cutting weight i was 250lbs. Since you seem to have a hard time gaining weight you should aim to consume between 3,000-3,400 calories a day getting 40% from protein, 50% from carbs and 10% from good fats. If you want to gain weight you have to eat for it, if you need to have a few protein shakes and/or bars throughout the day thats ok as long as you are getting in the nutrients necessary. BUT you MUST get rid of that fast food, its just as easy to eat clean and healthy as it is to grab some **** food like that, bring food from home if you need to, thats what I do, make it the night before and pack it and then the next morning all you have to do is grab it and leave.

[chrispghmuscle]

Holy cow THG,,I didn't realize your where 6 foot 5 and 250.. Freakin Mark McGwire looking huh.. Dam

[Tall HardGainer]

well I am around 15%bf amnd losing, so I figure I am going to end up around 215-220lbs lean around 5-7%bf. I would be bigger if I didn't neglect my legs for so long, but when your younger you don't think of these things, so I am guessing that if I had trained legs when I was younger I would have ended up being close to 270 or so at around 15%bf, I got small legs which I am working on, but its going to take some time to get them up where they need to be and where I want them.

[ActionJackson96]

Originally Posted by Tall HardGainer

first of all get rid of ALL fast food from your diet. You definately need to concentrate on eating every 2-3 hours to get the necessary amount of nutrients in your body. At 6'3" and weighing on 168 thats VERY light for your size, I am 6'5" and before I started cutting weight i was 250lbs. Since you seem to have a hard time gaining weight you should aim to consume between 3,000-3,400 calories a day getting 40% from protein, 50% from carbs and 10% from good fats. If you want to gain weight you have to eat for it, if you need to have a few protein shakes and/or bars throughout the day thats ok as long as you are getting in the nutrients necessary. BUT you MUST get rid of that fast food, its just as easy to eat clean and healthy as it is to grab some **** food like that, bring food from home if you need to, thats what I do, make it the night before and pack it and then the next morning all you have to do is grab it and leave.

Thanks THG. I didnt know if the fast food was having that much of an affect on my diet, so ill cut it off as of today. Even though fast food has lots of protein but also lots of bad fats, is fats what makes it bad?? What kind of food do you prepare to take to work?? Just want an idea of what some people are packing.
Yeah, Im usually the taller boxer in my matches. Usually you dont encounter 6'3 boxers, especially under 200 lbs!! haha, so ive always got a good reach on my opponents. So, Im tired of looking so thin and want people to notice that I have some mass behind me. It usually takes me having to take my shirt off for people to say wow. lol

[ActionJackson96]

Originally Posted by Tall HardGainer

first of all get rid of ALL fast food from your diet. You definately need to concentrate on eating every 2-3 hours to get the necessary amount of nutrients in your body. At 6'3" and weighing on 168 thats VERY light for your size, I am 6'5" and before I started cutting weight i was 250lbs. Since you seem to have a hard time gaining weight you should aim to consume between 3,000-3,400 calories a day getting 40% from protein, 50% from carbs and 10% from good fats. If you want to gain weight you have to eat for it, if you need to have a few protein shakes and/or bars throughout the day thats ok as long as you are getting in the nutrients necessary. BUT you MUST get rid of that fast food, its just as easy to eat clean and healthy as it is to grab some **** food like that, bring food from home if you need to, thats what I do, make it the night before and pack it and then the next morning all you have to do is grab it and leave.

What kind of protein bars/shakes would you recommend??

[Tall HardGainer]

Well what I usually pack for lunch for work is either steak, chicken or fish, along with a cup of brown rice or around 2 cups of whole wheat pasta, and a side salad with lowfat dressing, veggies, no croutons and almonds or walnuts. As far as protein is concerned I almost always use ON 100% Gold Whey Standard, or ON Casein. Detour makes a decent protein bar though also, as well as ON I think.

As far as the fastfood, yeah it contains tons of bad fats and choloresterol, and you get mayo in it, along with white bread (all of which will cause your body to create insulin spikes thus causing your body to retain fat). It doesn't have all that much protein in it because they use such low grade/quality meat in their products. 90% of your carbs should come from whole grains, with the exception of your post workout shake which should be fast in order to get as much protein and carbs into your system after a workout in which your body is in protein synthesis (consume your drink immediately after workout, which means bringing it into the gym with you) aim to get 50g protein and 60-70g carbs, personally I love the IDS smartgainer for postworkout shakes, because it gives me exactly what I need and tastes great, look into it. 1 hour after your workout aim to have another meal, this one being high in protein and only moderate in carbs (around 20-25 carbs whole grain).

Aim to eat around 6-7 meals a day if you can, but no less than 5, make sure that you are eating at least 3 from real food, you can use shakes for the other 3 if need be, but aim to eat as much as you can.