[A-Ron21]

Hey whats up guys. I've been doing some searches on this forum for natural and non-hormonal test boosters before I posted this thread, but I figured I'd post it anyway to get the info I need.
Anyways, I'm looking for advice on some sort of natural or non-hormonal test booster. I've tried tribulus before, which worked reasonably well, however, I feel like its effect diminished after about 2-3 weeks of taking 2x625mb tabs per day (optimum nutrition's brand of trib), and that after that period of time it reduced my appetite as well.
I'm looking at two different products right now - Applied nutriceutical's Drive and Gaspari's Novadex-xt. I wanted to get some thoughts on the novadex-xt especially because I don't want to take anything hormonal. I've been researching it and have gotten a bunch of different information so I can't really get a clear picture.

Also - info about myself

20 years old - I turn 21 in a couple weeks
Weightlifting - 3 years
190lbs (about)
Current supplementation:
ON whey
ON casein
Multi-vitamin
American sports nutrition creatine mono

I also follow a relatively good diet, for a college student, eating every 3 hours or so, lots of protein obviously, no drugs or alcohol, lots of rest, ~1 gal of water per day.

[T.O]

Dont waste your money bro. Not that the products are a waste but a all natural compound isnt really going to do much unless you alreaday have low levels of testosterone.

[deeturnerjr72]

Cosign Orbit. Unless you suspect you have low test I wouldnt bother. You need to have bloodwork done to check your test levels and that costs money. Finally, at your age your test should be peaking anyways and a natural booster isnt gonna do jack. Wait ill your older and can benefit from such products.
Good luck and just keep eating and training hard.

[A-Ron21]

Good point guys. I also found out that novadex-xt is banned from natural competitions so I guess thats out. Is it non-hormonal though? I'm just curious about that. I started taking the drive stuff yesterday and i feel like all it does is make me feel sick for half an hour after i take it. I think i might just buy some nitrix or n.o. explode because i've had good results with nitric oxide stuff before.

[Tall HardGainer]

the reason its banned from natural competitions is because anything that affects the amount of test in your system is considered "unnatural" however, there are many people who compete natural and take PH's and real gear, they just make sure they get it out of their system long enough before they are drug tested. Not saying you should do that, but it def. happens.