[meat_head_1985]

I am taking some supplemnts right now that you can find and GNC bc I work there, I need some outside oppoins on what I am taking, the good the bad the ugly.
Whey ebolic extream 60, sizeon, mass xxx, animal pk, I was talking NO shotgun.

I am looking for advice if I am on the right track should I add maybe a testboster, a preworkout things like that.

I am 22 6'0 218lbs goal is to be a bout 230.

[aznsyndicate609]

It's not a supplement, but I call it a STRICT DIET.
Don't use supplements unless your diet is good. SUPPLEment, it is meant to supplement your diet, not BE your diet.
A good supplement stack:
Whey protein (Optimum Nutrition's 100% whey protein)
casein protein (Optimum's casein)
creatine monohydrate (any company)
BCAA's (Optimum BCAA 5000 is good)
general multi-vitamin (anything really)

You sound like you are a beginner, so don't use anything that has to do with hormones. You don't need it when you are starting out.
Don't fall for those stupid hyped items especially by MuscleTech.

[meat_head_1985]

I have been at this a while but I have just done protien and from what I know about creatine is that mono is about 4 % absorbrate but ethl and glucanite have a hight absorbe rate and don't have to be loaded as mono dose.

[aznsyndicate609]

http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/f...26260-cee.html
That enough proof that CEE is no good?
If you are going to look into steroids, you have to research it for at least a year to know what you are doing. I don't know anything about this topic, though, you'd have to ask LBJ and someone else about it.

[meat_head_1985]

I will have to check into that that is why I am on here getting some fead back

[Tripower]

Originally Posted by aznsyndicate609

It's not a supplement, but I call it a STRICT DIET.

Cosign. I cannot stress this point enough, bloody good post aznsyndicate.

[meat_head_1985]

I agree with that stament, I think that if you want to see results and your food is minium and not being watched you will throw your money at supplements and won't get minimal results

[Tall HardGainer]

well i will say this for sure, DO NOT DO STEROIDS! Pardon my language here, but you WILL **** yourself up if you go that route.

Diet right, take your multi, efa's, etc...take a mono creatine of scifit kre-akyline (its not cee but it shares the same type of idea of it, but different). If you want, I like Nitrix and superpump250. Size on is a good creatine as well though.

Get a good whey protein and casein protein (ON is my personal preference) and get in all your food.

[meat_head_1985]

I am taking the GNC brang called Wheyebolic extrem 60 it is and isolate and has a added digestive enzime very good for after workout. how about a preworkout? black powder or, superpump 250 or NO shotgun. Also what about plazama jet?

[Tall HardGainer]

i would go plasmajet handsdown, love gaspari products and it sounds SOOOOOO promising and can't wait to pick some up

[forearm frenzy]

Shotgun is pretty sweet. It has redline in it so you will train like a freak. Not the best tasting though. I like Black Powder- instant and good taste.
Protein- Wheybolic is a good choice for post w/o. All isolate protein + added leucine.
Mass XXX- good for b/t meals and/or before bed. Complex carbs and mix of fast/slow proteins.
Add in some Omega-3, whether its fish caps w/each meal or flax oil into your shakes (NOT post w/o shake-it slows down the absorption rate)

[meat_head_1985]

have you read how to take it? I too love gaspari products, it says you take it every other day and and hour befor working out. my budy has it right now and stacks the days he isn't taking plazma jet with NO2 pillis.

[KM]

Imo bro, you don't NEED an N.O- save you're money. However, if you're going to take an N.O. I would recommend Superpump.

Get the diet in hard, follow it, train properly.. You'll find out that you don't need all the supplements. Food is what will get you gains.

Also, Imo THG, steroids won't '**** you up' if they're taking correctly. May have side effects but if they become very educated on the subject and know everything about it, perhaps it wouldn't as harmful. Not my first choice though

Recommended supplementation: (Listed in order of importance, for my opinion. Everyone's is different.
ON Whey Protein
Creatine Mono
BCAAs
Multi V
Casein Protein

[meat_head_1985]

Originally Posted by forearm frenzy

Shotgun is pretty sweet. It has redline in it so you will train like a freak. Not the best tasting though. I like Black Powder- instant and good taste.
Protein- Wheybolic is a good choice for post w/o. All isolate protein + added leucine.
Mass XXX- good for b/t meals and/or before bed. Complex carbs and mix of fast/slow proteins.
Add in some Omega-3, whether its fish caps w/each meal or flax oil into your shakes (NOT post w/o shake-it slows down the absorption rate)

it seems you know your way around GNC and the products, They have a new flavor out fruite punch so I don't know yet if it tastes better but I am sure it is better then apple dirt.

[meat_head_1985]

That is all I needed oh I have purpple wrath for BCAA's that is very good shake. I do this after I get done working out I go to local food market by a whole chicken some uncle bens wild rice and a naked juice for a meal after I have been seen very good results from that.

[KM]

Great bro, don't quit it then. Do what works, if you've been seeing the results with eating. You should just use that money for more food!

[forearm frenzy]

Lets just say I know the PM list.
Your list seems pretty legit. If your eating clean and plenty of it /and training like you got a pair, then your supps will carry you to the promise land of Gainsville!

[pheonix765]

i cant believe you work at gnc and do not know more than what you do. i've at gnc for a year now and my rsd busted my ass with quizes and questions about anything from protein to colon cleansers. even now everyone at our store constantly gets suprise quizes and suprise visits from our rsd. if we dont pass we have to spend the next week in a class. must be a lot different where you are.

[meat_head_1985]

Ha like wise, PM rule.

[meat_head_1985]

I just started 2 weeks ago man give a bro a break, that is why I am on here asking questions if I don't ask I won't know the answer.

[pheonix765]

well you came to the right place. absorb everything you can because customers will bust your ass and call you out if your bs ing them. welcome to the dungeon

[forearm frenzy]

Hey pheonix, keep learning and ask questions

[pheonix765]

no offense and im not saying this in any sort of rude way but i wasn't the one asking questions.

[Live.to.get.Big]

God damnit NO shotgun is bad tasting...I recently switched over from NO vapor and the vapor tasted fine...However Shotgun gives me a better pump I feel, so shotgun would be a good muscle pump/energizer if you can handle the taste of..death. Also another good gainer is mutant mass by PVL, I have 2 shakes a day, 2000 calories, 108 grams of protein, 340g carbs...for bulking purposes. Good Luck

[pheonix765]

vapor isn't to great of a N.O. product but you can do N.O. xplode or superpump if you dont like the N.O. shotgun or they just came out with a new flavor for shotgun.

[Live.to.get.Big]

I like vapor better than explode...BSN does nothing for me

[pheonix765]

wow. i cant believe that. but everyone is different. if it works for you then stick with it.

[Tall HardGainer]

if I were your buddy, I would tell him to not take a NO product between days, because you will be diluting the effects of plasmajet, its designed to release throughout 2 days, and if you add something else in there your not doing anythin extra because your body can only process so much and you are putting more **** into the body and taking away from what the plasmajet is supposed to do.