will this stack work like gear

ffbulldog · 01-09-2008, 09:55 PM

ok ihad a buddy tell me that these supp would work as good as Test E and are not as "dangerous". what does anyone know bout these. my goal is to cut BF and bulk. i have a cardio routine and a good diet plan

Methyl-D (prohormone)
endothil
DHEA
magnesium/morning and pre-workout

if some one as info on these, i would apppreciate it . as well as dosages and optimal times

Tripower · 01-09-2008, 10:17 PM

Man ask anyone from the steroid section and they will have ur answers. LBJ knows his ****.

**Tall HardGainer** · 01-09-2008, 11:17 PM

NOTHING works as real as real gear. And even if you take real gear you wont get the results you are looking for if you don't have any diet in place. A lot of people like the methly d but just know that the methyl stand is VERY toxic to the liver so beware.

pheonix765 · 01-09-2008, 11:35 PM

agreed. diet first. but no, methyl 1-d will be nothing like taking test E or any other gear. if it worked as well it would be illegal. save your money for all the food your going to have to eat to grow.

KM · 01-09-2008, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tall HardGainer

NOTHING works as real as real gear. And even if you take real gear you wont get the results you are looking for if you don't have any diet in place. A lot of people like the methly d but just know that the methyl stand is VERY toxic to the liver so beware.

Cosing 100%!! And post this in the Steroid section for the Mods and knowledged people on gear can help you out. If you take Methyl 1-D I would do some type of PCT. (Correct me if I'm wrong, 0 experience with this stuff, just some info I picked up I think)

**Tall HardGainer** · 01-10-2008, 10:58 AM

PCT would be a must with M-1D, especially since you have the methyl strand in it, which is toxic to the liver, but it also tends to cause more side effects then if a supp doesn't have it.

musclemaniac uk · 01-10-2008, 11:06 AM

agree with THG, the only thing as good as test E is test E. don't fall into the marketing trap.

deeturnerjr72 · 01-10-2008, 01:10 PM

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PCT would be a must with M-1D, especially since you have the methyl strand in it, which is toxic to the liver, but it also tends to cause more side effects then if a supp doesn't have it.

I thought the purpose of taking PCT supps was to get your bodys natural state of test back in order so that you dont experience shutdown or loose your gains?
I didnt think it had anything to do with the methylated compounds that effect your liver during your cycle.
You should be on a liver support during the cycle to keep some of the stress off of your liver.
You made it sound like PCT is for detoxing your liver only.

deeturnerjr72 · 01-10-2008, 01:18 PM

And to the original question. NO nothing works like gear but gear. Orals can have good gains, but nothing like the real stuff.

**bigbull** · 01-10-2008, 01:44 PM

like its been said there is nothing gear but gear

yosahab · 01-10-2008, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffbulldog

ok ihad a buddy tell me that these supp would work as good as Test E and are not as "dangerous". what does anyone know bout these. my goal is to cut BF and bulk. i have a cardio routine and a good diet plan

Methyl-D (prohormone)
endothil
DHEA
magnesium/morning and pre-workout

if some one as info on these, i would apppreciate it . as well as dosages and optimal times

You need to kick your friend in the face....lol

Dosage should be 0
optimal time: never

ffbulldog · 01-10-2008, 03:19 PM

ya the more i look into these supps the more i agree with u guys. thats why i threw it out there to get the real feedback bout it thanks

pheonix765 · 01-10-2008, 03:19 PM

^^^^^^^cosign

**Tall HardGainer** · 01-10-2008, 03:38 PM

it is to help regulate the test levels back to a normal state and decrease estrogen, sorry I was thinking one thing and typing something else, I didn't get much sleep last night, thanks for keeping me on my toes.

deeturnerjr72 · 01-10-2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tall HardGainer

it is to help regulate the test levels back to a normal state and decrease estrogen, sorry I was thinking one thing and typing something else, I didn't get much sleep last night, thanks for keeping me on my toes.

LOL! I figured it was just an oversight. Just wanted to make sure noone was confused reading it

**Tall HardGainer** · 01-10-2008, 11:50 PM

thanks good catch.

**QuinnBW** · 01-11-2008, 12:37 AM

anyone else noticed the recent spike in questions about legal test. boosters?

**under construction** · 01-11-2008, 12:42 AM

I cosign with everyone who says gear is gear and nothing else is. In the technical sense of the word DHEA is a steroid in that it is a synthetic hormone but it is not a synthetic test so it wont work like legit gear save your cash

**Tall HardGainer** · 01-15-2008, 11:56 PM

good call underconstruction, don't be fooled by imitators saying they are something when they aren't, a lot of companies are also trying to promote supps with names that are identical or close to the real steroid hoping you will buy it thinking thats it is it, just legally, just a scam, save your money like mentioned.

dvwaldron · 03-16-2008, 08:48 PM

i have used novedex xt and had great results there is an independet clinical trial that was performed by baylor university showing through blood test 236% increase in overall test fron blocking and eliminating nearley all estrogen in the body and absolutely no liver toxicity i used recomended 2 a day for 30 days and gained 6 pounds of solid muscle and dropped apprx. 2-3 pounds of fat waited 2 weeks and gained another 4-5 pounds of muscle doing another bottle and overall gained 40 lbs. on my bench