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Old 01-09-2008, 08:55 PM   #1
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ok ihad a buddy tell me that these supp would work as good as Test E and are not as "dangerous". what does anyone know bout these. my goal is to cut BF and bulk. i have a cardio routine and a good diet plan

Methyl-D (prohormone)
endothil
DHEA
magnesium/morning and pre-workout

if some one as info on these, i would apppreciate it . as well as dosages and optimal times
 
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:17 PM   #2
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Man ask anyone from the steroid section and they will have ur answers. LBJ knows his shit.
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Old 01-09-2008, 10:17 PM   #3
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NOTHING works as real as real gear. And even if you take real gear you wont get the results you are looking for if you don't have any diet in place. A lot of people like the methly d but just know that the methyl stand is VERY toxic to the liver so beware.
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Old 01-09-2008, 10:35 PM   #4
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agreed. diet first. but no, methyl 1-d will be nothing like taking test E or any other gear. if it worked as well it would be illegal. save your money for all the food your going to have to eat to grow.
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Old 01-09-2008, 10:38 PM   #5
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NOTHING works as real as real gear. And even if you take real gear you wont get the results you are looking for if you don't have any diet in place. A lot of people like the methly d but just know that the methyl stand is VERY toxic to the liver so beware.
Cosing 100%!! And post this in the Steroid section for the Mods and knowledged people on gear can help you out. If you take Methyl 1-D I would do some type of PCT. (Correct me if I'm wrong, 0 experience with this stuff, just some info I picked up I think)
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:58 AM   #6
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PCT would be a must with M-1D, especially since you have the methyl strand in it, which is toxic to the liver, but it also tends to cause more side effects then if a supp doesn't have it.
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Old 01-10-2008, 10:06 AM   #7
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agree with THG, the only thing as good as test E is test E. don't fall into the marketing trap.
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Old 01-10-2008, 12:10 PM   #8
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PCT would be a must with M-1D, especially since you have the methyl strand in it, which is toxic to the liver, but it also tends to cause more side effects then if a supp doesn't have it.

I thought the purpose of taking PCT supps was to get your bodys natural state of test back in order so that you dont experience shutdown or loose your gains?
I didnt think it had anything to do with the methylated compounds that effect your liver during your cycle.
You should be on a liver support during the cycle to keep some of the stress off of your liver.
You made it sound like PCT is for detoxing your liver only.
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Old 01-10-2008, 12:18 PM   #9
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And to the original question. NO nothing works like gear but gear. Orals can have good gains, but nothing like the real stuff.
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Old 01-10-2008, 12:44 PM   #10
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like its been said there is nothing gear but gear
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ok ihad a buddy tell me that these supp would work as good as Test E and are not as "dangerous". what does anyone know bout these. my goal is to cut BF and bulk. i have a cardio routine and a good diet plan

Methyl-D (prohormone)
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DHEA
magnesium/morning and pre-workout

if some one as info on these, i would apppreciate it . as well as dosages and optimal times
You need to kick your friend in the face....lol

Dosage should be 0
optimal time: never
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Old 01-10-2008, 02:19 PM   #12
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ya the more i look into these supps the more i agree with u guys. thats why i threw it out there to get the real feedback bout it thanks
 
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