Stack Advice

Impaler · 01-05-2008, 02:31 AM

Im 19. I train hard as hell. Im looking to start stacking a few products. I want to gain SOME muscle but Im not trying to bulk right now. I want to keep what definition I have and possibly get a little more. Im just looking for some advice on what products have worked for some of you guys. Anyone?

mindgame · 01-05-2008, 06:10 AM

whats your stats? and also hows your diet? Do you use any right now?

**justlift32** · 01-05-2008, 10:47 AM

IMO you need to get your diet straight first. Show us your diet. Your diet will determine how much lean mass and fat you gain. To gain lean mass with little fat your going to need to bulk. The whole idea is to eat more calories then you burn in a day. This by definition is bulking. If you remain at your baseline caloric intake, you will not see the gains your looking for.

Second, supplements are no magic pills or powder. They are supplements to go along with your diet. A solid stack is

Multivitamin
Fish Oil
BCAA's
ON 100% Whey Gold Standard
Creatine Mono
Casein Protein

**under construction** · 01-05-2008, 11:05 AM

how long have you been training also

Impaler · 01-05-2008, 02:06 PM

I've been training for about 1 1/2 years. Im about 170 lb's at 6 ft. About 9.5 % body fat. Try to eat about 4-6 meals a day. Lots of chicken and turkey. But my regular diet isn't giving me what I think I need. Thats where I need the help. I'm just using some whey right now pre and post workout. Some like wheyobolic GNC sh**.

**Tall HardGainer** · 01-05-2008, 07:04 PM

post your entire diet, so that we can pick out strong and weak points. Also look on the forum (i think on page 2) for the thread Favorite Stack, a lot of good supp stack on there.

**rIPPDUP** · 01-05-2008, 08:17 PM

nutrition is key, you can train hard as hell all ya want, but without a proper plan (gain or cut) you aren't going to really notice any results. try to consume between 6-8 proper meals a day. rest is important as well, give yourself ample time to sleep.

as far as the supplement side goes...

multivitamin
flaxseed oil
bcaa's
proteins (whey, casein for bedtime)
creatine monohydrate

don't focus so much on anything else as you are too young to go experimenting with the hormone game. hope this helps bud

Impaler · 01-06-2008, 12:30 AM

Oh ya im not messing around with the hormonal stuff. Thanks though.
My diet:
Breakfast: Something small. Couple turkey sandwiches on white bread. Glass of milk.
Dinner: Couple more sandwiches/ little fruit. Footlong chicken breast from subway. milk
Supper: Usually about the same as dinner.
Before bed: Some chicken or turkey. little fruit.
I also have a glass of whey protein with milk pre and post workout. And snack throughout the day......

What ya think?

**Tall HardGainer** · 01-06-2008, 01:34 AM

This is what I would do:

Breakfast: 3 egg whites,1 whole egg, 2 slices whole wheat toast or 1 cup oatmeal
Midmorning Snack: Turkey Sandwich
Lunch: Chicken/Fish/Steak 1 cup brown rice and some veggies
Midafternoon Snack: Protein shake and 1 piece fruit
Postworkout: 40-50 grams fast digesting protien, 60-70grams fast digesting carbs (shakes are great here).
Dinner: Steak, 1/2 brown rice and veggies
Before Bed: Casein protein shake

Supplement:
Multi
BCAA's
EFA's
Creatine
Glutamine

**Tall HardGainer** · 01-06-2008, 01:36 AM

Also, lose the milk, too much of it can be a bad thing, if you want to have some during the day thats fine, but limit it to around twice only.

Your not eating enough and thats going to effect you, this is just a sample diet, but you get the idea i hope.

Impaler · 01-06-2008, 01:42 AM

Thanks man Ill reference that for sure.

**Freak** · 01-07-2008, 05:35 AM

I thought I gave you the bulking primer Impaler?