Whey Protein For a 14 year old

davegillis · 12-20-2007, 11:10 PM

Hey, I was wondering if i could go on Whey protein. Im 14 years old 5,3 120 lbs and on Creatine. Is it safe for me and is it worth spending my money on?

skb_chris · 12-20-2007, 11:16 PM

protein is perfect for post workout & b4 bed.

protein grows muscle, simple.

**Tall HardGainer** · 12-20-2007, 11:23 PM

i wouldn't even be taking the creatine if I were you. Develop a solid natural base. If you are to take anything, take these:
Food
Food
Food
Lots of Water
Whey Protein
Casein Protein
Fast Digesting Weight Gainer (like IDS Smartgainer) for post workout
BCAA's
Sport Multivitamin
EFA's

No creatines, NO products, nothing, your test levels are extrememly high right now and will be until your about 21, wait until your about 18-19 (4-5 years of solid training and dieting under your belt) and then if you want to dabble in stuff like that, go ahead, but get your feet on the ground and running first before you start taking supplements (remember bodybuilding is about winning the war not the battle)You have a lot of time to get big, do it right and natural and you won't be dissapointed, there is no miracle supplement that will make you huge in a year or anything. Without diet and good training, efforts will be for nothing. Remember the word supplement, it means to supplement what your doing already, so if you don't have a good diet and gym routine, you are doing nothing but wasting your money.

KM · 12-20-2007, 11:35 PM

I'm 15- i take ON Whey Chocolate, nothing else. You don't need anything but a Protein at this age bro, if you stick with protein you'll see great gains. Keep a stabel diet, enough sleep, proper training.. you'll get bigger faster than you know. Its the truth.

**Freak** · 12-20-2007, 11:37 PM

I disagree, he doesn't need casein or a weight gainer but creatine mono would be beneficial.

skb_chris · 12-20-2007, 11:37 PM

only 15, wish i was 15, they were the good old days.

wait till your 24 or older, tired all the time, lol.

**justlift32** · 12-20-2007, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Freak

I disagree, he doesn't need casein or a weight gainer but creatine mono would be beneficial.

i agree with freak on this one. let him start off with just whey protein and creatine in addition to a solid diet. he is only 15, and when he gets more experienced i would add the casein and other supps in.

bulk then cut · 12-20-2007, 11:58 PM

im 15, i take superpump,whey,creatine mono, yea thats all the suplements i take right now.

davegillis · 12-21-2007, 12:04 AM

Thanks guy, what are the side effects?

**under construction** · 12-21-2007, 12:10 AM

im almost 40 and I still only take protein and a a multi pak recently started taking milk thistle for my old liver but I might not even need that. Diet water cardio and weights kid its the miracle stack

**Freak** · 12-21-2007, 12:11 AM

No sides bud.

skeptic · 12-21-2007, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by davegillis

Thanks guy, what are the side effects?

brolic-itis

**Tall HardGainer** · 12-21-2007, 08:50 AM

I just don't think that starting off bbing and 15 that he should be taking anything but a protein supp. Let him establish a natural base first before he starts taking anything, if he wants to take something in 2-3 years I can see that especially in that 2-3 year period he gets his diet and training down, but to start up and start taking a creatine and a NO product I think is foolish, sorry Freak I don't like to butt heads with people, I just don't think its the right choice.

KM · 12-21-2007, 03:26 PM

davegillis- when did you start training?

**Freak** · 12-21-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tall HardGainer

I just don't think that starting off bbing and 15 that he should be taking anything but a protein supp. Let him establish a natural base first before he starts taking anything, if he wants to take something in 2-3 years I can see that especially in that 2-3 year period he gets his diet and training down, but to start up and start taking a creatine and a NO product I think is foolish, sorry Freak I don't like to butt heads with people, I just don't think its the right choice.

What is the disadvantage of taking creatine at 14?

KM · 12-21-2007, 03:34 PM

Maybe the knowledge of when to cycle on and off and how the product works- but that can simply be found out.

**Freak** · 12-21-2007, 03:37 PM

Yeah read the bottle.. It's not like they are ph's...

CrusaderMuscle · 12-21-2007, 07:33 PM

I'm just surprised that you turned to creatine before a protein supplement. Anyway, protein id fine for a 14 year old. Creatine is probably okay as well as its non-hormonal. Certainly stay away from any supplements that would alter your hormonal levels. At 14, you're test levels are high enough. I would get a multi vitamin as well. Any one else have any thoughts?

**Freak** · 12-21-2007, 07:34 PM

I would def. take creatine before whey. If it was an either or decision.

KM · 12-21-2007, 07:40 PM

Proteins the building block to muscle though.. Without it- gains will be slower. It would be beneficial to take protein with a Creatine, but idk maybe I'm missing something.. Creatine helps with your energy levels and can give you water retention, saturating the muscle. Why creatine before whey though?

**Freak** · 12-21-2007, 07:41 PM

because if he has a solid diet he will get enough protein from that. It doesn't take much to build muscle but so many in the bb community don't want to leave it to chance.

KM · 12-21-2007, 07:48 PM

True, excess protein that the body can't digest would be a waste. But many kids don't diet, and no one asked if he did.. people just assume everyone diets. Smart people diet, many kids that I know of who feel they're into the sport eat chineese 3-4 times a week.

**Freak** · 12-21-2007, 07:53 PM

Well without a diet you won't make progress regardless of the supplements you are on. Agreed.

**under construction** · 12-21-2007, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Freak

I would def. take creatine before whey. If it was an either or decision.

so you put that much stock in this stuff huh since I respect your opinion I will try a tub what could it hurt.

**Freak** · 12-21-2007, 08:32 PM

Yeah I definitely would man no doubt about it. Just regular creatine mono nothing fancy.

davegillis · 12-21-2007, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tall HardGainer

I just don't think that starting off bbing and 15 that he should be taking anything but a protein supp. Let him establish a natural base first before he starts taking anything, if he wants to take something in 2-3 years I can see that especially in that 2-3 year period he gets his diet and training down, but to start up and start taking a creatine and a NO product I think is foolish, sorry Freak I don't like to butt heads with people, I just don't think its the right choice.

I started working out in grade 6 (two years ago)

davegillis · 12-21-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CrusaderMuscle

I'm just surprised that you turned to creatine before a protein supplement. Anyway, protein id fine for a 14 year old. Creatine is probably okay as well as its non-hormonal. Certainly stay away from any supplements that would alter your hormonal levels. At 14, you're test levels are high enough. I would get a multi vitamin as well. Any one else have any thoughts?

I have multi vitamins

**lil_big_junior** · 12-21-2007, 10:13 PM

i always used protein supps ever since i started lifting, but i started on creatine when i was 16, when i was 17-18 i only wish i started using it younger, it would have made a big difference in my gains at that age.

but let this be a valuble lesson to you...DON'T let supps replace your food bro, remember FOOD always comes first. eat like a beast, supps are an addition to your diet.

good luck

titty · 12-22-2007, 10:07 AM

hi there dave we have the sam height and weight i dnt take anything like i eat food water and semi milk thats all mate i started propely 4 mounts ago

**Tall HardGainer** · 12-22-2007, 01:07 PM

The reason I would say not to take the creatine first is because it allows him to build a natural base, granted creatine is *not* hormonal, its good to let the body get used to lifting without anything besides some whey protein, multi's etc... Let him start growing naturally first, get some muscle structure and a few years under his belt, then start moving onto things like creatine and NO products, etc... If he can get a good base without creatine, when he goes to cycle his creatine in the future his gains will be more solid. Also, his test levels are through the roof right now, that should be good enough, why add creatine when test is so much better? Its just my opinion.

*not* was edited, I made a mistype.