[Biggie]

alreet,
i struggle to put on any mass no matter how hard i train...so i am thinking of buying these tabs....

Animal Pak Uk - Animal Pump - 30 Paks

has anyone tried this product or tried any other AnimalPak products? if so what quality are they and do you hink they are value for money for what they are and the quality?

any replies would be apreciated,

cheers,
John

[Beefcake]

I wouldn't recommend Animal Pak stuff. Others may, but personally, it's not for me.

Go with something like ON Whey. It appears to help a bit. Other than that, just eat, eat, and eat some more. Then when you don't think you can eat anymore, eat more. This is the advice that almost everyone will give you, and the best I can think of. As for Animal, IMO, too expensive for what you get.

[Tall HardGainer]

Putting on weight is more of a diet thing, not a training thing. Yes the heavier you lift the more muscle you need, but if you don't have diet down behind it your just wasting your time. What does your diet look like? Here is a post of one of my meal plans when I bulk, its down torwards the bottom of the page:

any supplements for building mass??

I also don't personally use Animal products, I am more of a Optiumum Nutrition (ON) person, I also like some BSN and IDS products such as: IDS Smartgainer for post workout and BSN TruMass for weightgainer meals throughout the day. I also use ON 2-1-1 Recovery for post workout and a lot of other stuff, but check out the link. Post your diet and your stats so we can help.

[mm1snapper]

Originally Posted by Tall HardGainer

Putting on weight is more of a diet thing, not a training thing. Yes the heavier you lift the more muscle you need, but if you don't have diet down behind it your just wasting your time. What does your diet look like? Here is a post of one of my meal plans when I bulk, its down torwards the bottom of the page:

any supplements for building mass??

I also don't personally use Animal products, I am more of a Optiumum Nutrition (ON) person, I also like some BSN and IDS products such as: IDS Smartgainer for post workout and BSN TruMass for weightgainer meals throughout the day. I also use ON 2-1-1 Recovery for post workout and a lot of other stuff, but check out the link. Post your diet and your stats so we can help.

All good post^^^

Mainly stay away from animal pack and start eating more... Only supps you need is a protein and creatine atm.

[aznsyndicate609]

Cosign with everyone.
Until your diet is down, don't even think about supplements. Just think that they don't exist to you until you have a proper diet.
Good supplement stack:
Whey protein, preferably ON 100% whey
Some BCAA's
Creatine monohydrate
good multi vitamin
flaxseed or fish oil

If your diet is all good, you have the supplements above, add in some casein protein and maybe a good NO product.

[Kirk]

diet, diet diet...

[42gunz]

agree with everything said. just one thing to add...i just finished with all 21 packs of animal stack....nothing really special to report, waste of money

[tapout7]

Originally Posted by aznsyndicate609

Good supplement stack:
Whey protein, preferably ON 100% whey
Some BCAA's
Creatine monohydrate
good multi vitamin
flaxseed or fish oil

If your diet is all good, you have the supplements above, add in some casein protein and maybe a good NO product.

cosign bro thats my stack with fish oil instead of flax oil and ON serious Mass. but yea you could get a NO product for pre workout to get you hyped up and give you a good pump but its not a must have and like he said you could definitely use a good casein to. cosign what everyone has said it doesnt matter what you take unless you are eating a lot of good clean foods.
And stay away from anything that animal pak makes like everyone has said just wasting your money bro that shits junk. soooo,
Bust your ass in the gym!, get a good workout program maybe look into DC if you have some experience, or just a normal 4-5 day split. Drink a lot of Water! Eat like a Bear get 1gram of protein per pound you weigh and get a lot of carbs. but make sure your eating clean foods! and the size will come man.

[Biggie]

Originally Posted by Tall HardGainer

Putting on weight is more of a diet thing, not a training thing. Yes the heavier you lift the more muscle you need, but if you don't have diet down behind it your just wasting your time. What does your diet look like? Here is a post of one of my meal plans when I bulk, its down torwards the bottom of the page:

any supplements for building mass??

I also don't personally use Animal products, I am more of a Optiumum Nutrition (ON) person, I also like some BSN and IDS products such as: IDS Smartgainer for post workout and BSN TruMass for weightgainer meals throughout the day. I also use ON 2-1-1 Recovery for post workout and a lot of other stuff, but check out the link. Post your diet and your stats so we can help.

cheers bud im gunna try your meal plan as soon as i buy all the supps...im lookin forward to the gains im goin to acheive....at the mo my diet is SHIT! and after christmas im stopping drinking so that will help

thanks very much m8

cheers,
john

[Tall HardGainer]

No problem buddy here to help!! Good luck with the dieting!

[Biggie]

cheers bud

cheers,
john