[mindgame]

right now im in my bulking phase you can say trying to gain as much mass til Feb. Right now im using Nano vapor, call-tech hardcore, fish oil, daily vitamin and my whey protien. and i just found good prices at nutraplanet that i can afford instead of going to GNC which only has a very limited stuff to choose from and nutraplanet and other places online have stuff i never even heard of. Im wondering on your guys opinions and inputs you can give me for better products thats worth the money. and if i need to add anything else to my stack. thanks

[mm1snapper]

First of all drop all your muscle tech ****. Its over priced and you get the same results with cheaper products.

Plain creatine mono
100%whey From Optimum nutrition
Fish oil
multi vit
Casein protein(Before bed)
ON 5000 BCAA
A No Product-No shotgun, No-xplode

But first make sure your diet is in check. You wont see th gains you want if your not eating right! Its the number one thing you need before any supplements. Check out the nutrition thread!

[mindgame]

my nutrition is good. i mean its not perfect its hard to stick to wen i get switch from working nights or days.
i can find plain creatine mono on nutra right?

[mindgame]

also right now i just order some white flood since it was on sale for 14.99.

[mm1snapper]

Yes you can find plain creatine mono there.

I personaly dont have any experience with controled lab products, but i have heard good things.

[Tall HardGainer]

When it comes to supplements don't just go with whats on sale, sucks to hear but if you want the gains and results sometimes you got to not worry about whats on sale and what isn't. But as stated before, drop the muscle tech ****, the products they make are crap. Secondly here is some companies who makes good quality products: BSN, Optimum Nutrition, Gaspari, G.E.T. (which is a bit more like a PH, if your of age and something you want to do), IDS. Probably more but I just can't think of it right now. Anyone else please jump in and give their opinions.

Anyways, food food food will always be the staple of any routine. Anyways good luck!

[mindgame]

yea im dropping the muscle tech wen im done wit it. thats y i want to know wut i can buy thats worth the money ya noe. and yes i try to eat good all the time 4-5 times a day. but its just wit work and sumtimes ill be workin nights and sum time ill be working dayz. but im bout to hit the gym though. thanks hard. if u can give me anymore it would be fine!

[deeturnerjr72]

Originally Posted by Tall HardGainer

When it comes to supplements don't just go with whats on sale, sucks to hear but if you want the gains and results sometimes you got to not worry about whats on sale and what isn't. But as stated before, drop the muscle tech ****, the products they make are crap. Secondly here is some companies who makes good quality products: BSN, Optimum Nutrition, Gaspari, G.E.T. (which is a bit more like a PH, if your of age and something you want to do), IDS. Probably more but I just can't think of it right now. Anyone else please jump in and give their opinions.

Anyways, food food food will always be the staple of any routine. Anyways good luck!

Cosign on Optimum and IDS I also like VPX quite a bit myself.

[mindgame]

whats IDS??

[mm1snapper]

Originally Posted by mindgame

whats IDS??

IDS is a supplement company that specializes in prohormones imo.

[mindgame]

ok i dont think i can take that while im in the military lol

[mm1snapper]

Actually military doesnt test for that stuff. Drugs only such as week cocain ect...

[mindgame]

yes thats true. but im more of a better safe then sorry. i went to my base HAWK and try to get the list of the supplements im not allowed to take in the military but i have recieved anything yet. Also i get paid soon and this is wut im thinking of getting so far

Optimum Nutrition protien
White flood-since i already bought it lol
fish oil-basic one
multivitamin
creatine mono-any suggestions?
i believe thats it.

anything else i would need? and if you have recommendations on any company will be nice.

[mm1snapper]

For creatine mono get gnc or vitamin shoppe brand. Its really cheap and does the job.

[mindgame]

so just get the basic GNC version? i can do that. thanks for the help man really appreciate it.

anything for like a post workout? sup

[pheonix765]

post workout you just want to make sure you get your whey protein in and some bcaa's

[mindgame]

ok now for the bcaas is that just a product you can buy or do you get it from regular supplements?

[pheonix765]

i personally use "on bcaa 5000" its a powder and you only take one teaspoon per serving. i got mine at gnc but im sure you can get it at vitamin shop or anywhere like that.

[mindgame]

like a GNC brand thats cheap?? hmmmm i never knew about that...thanks

[pheonix765]

no problem. keep us updated on how things turn out for you

[mindgame]

ok so now my stack will be

ON whey protien
fish oil capsules-gnc version
mutlivitamin
creatine mono-gnc version
white flood
some type of bcaa powder.

look good?

[mm1snapper]

Originally Posted by mindgame

ok so now my stack will be

ON whey protien
fish oil capsules-gnc version
mutlivitamin
creatine mono-gnc version
white flood
some type of bcaa powder.

look good?

Looks great man thats the basic bodybuilding stack right there. Just make sure to hit the weights hard and you will be looking huge in no time.

Good luck man if you have anything else just ask.

[mindgame]

thanks for the help peeps. my friend is trying to get me on one those cycles that you guys talk about wit the PCT afterwards but it just looks to confusing lol

[pheonix765]

no, its not to bad to do a cycle. but you don't need it. just stick to the basics for awhile and you'll become more experienced with what works and what doesn't.

[mindgame]

^^ thanks man. and its true.