Methyl 1D and Methyl 1D XL

pacn_lbs · 09-21-2007, 04:31 PM

I was lookin at the bottle and was comparing the two.. GNC bought the rights to be the only retail shop to sell Methyl 1D XL. they told me that they are going to start having a line of XL products. ive asked if there is a difference and they said no that the only difference is the amount in the bottle. and ive tried going onto othere thread to get info on the two. But I found something that looks to be misleading is the ingredients in the two and if u dont do reasearch on ur product u could miss it. this is what i found........

Methyl 1D:
1 capsule Servings Per Container: 90 Amount Per Serving
Anabolic Agent: 85mg 3-beta-hydroxyetioallocholan-5-ene-17-one
Estrogen Control Complex: 4 mg 1,4,6-etioallocholan-dione
Metabolism Complex (Patent Pending): 225mg Quercetin Beta Sitosterol Milk Thistle Ellagic Acid Piperine Zinc Asparate 5mg 3-alpha, 7-alpha-dihydroxy-5-beta-cholanic acid

Methyl 1D XL:
1 Capsules Servings Per Container 135 Amount Per Serving % DV
Prohormone Complex 104.00 mg ** 146-etioallocholan-dione ** Caprylic Acid (as Calcium Caprylate) ** Metabolism Complex (Patent Pending) 209.00 mg ** Luteolin ** Ellagic Acid Standardized ** Piperine ** Zinc (as Zinc Aspartate) ** Coleus Forskolini Standardized ** Cissus Quadrangularis ** Eurycoma Longifolia

See the difference. M1D has 3-beta-hydroxyetioallocholan-5-ene-17-one which is the anabolic agent while M1D XL doesn't even mention the ingredient in the blend and only has 146-etioallocholan-dione which is an estogen blocker. Even though if u look at M1Ds Anabolic Agent blend its 84mg while M1D XLs' is 104mg. I dont know if they have the same ingredients, but why would the labels be different?.. Also M1D had Milk Thistle while the other dosent..

**lil_big_junior** · 09-21-2007, 04:34 PM

i haven't seen any reviews about M1D XL yet...i might have to do some research into it...thx for the heads up bro

pacn_lbs · 09-21-2007, 04:39 PM

No prob.. Also Legal Gear doesnt even sell XL on their website which make it more fishier to me..

**rIPPDUP** · 09-21-2007, 05:00 PM

i'd be really skeptical about anything that gnc sells under such a reputable company name such as lg. if it's not on lg's website i dunno man. i'll be looking into it as well.

pacn_lbs · 09-21-2007, 05:07 PM

I wouldnt doubt that if i called LG they would be like "what's XL?"

lat3539 · 09-22-2007, 11:13 AM

I am a gnc manager. the XL version is a product LG makes exclusively for gnc. it is a weaker version(believe i hate we have a watered down version) but it does help 1 of our customers test count went from 389 to 775 not steroids but not bad . we also just got formadrol XL which is a 90 count version. hope this helps.

pacn_lbs · 09-22-2007, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lat3539

I am a gnc manager. the XL version is a product LG makes exclusively for gnc. it is a weaker version(believe i hate we have a watered down version) but it does help 1 of our customers test count went from 389 to 775 not steroids but not bad . we also just got formadrol XL which is a 90 count version. hope this helps.

Thanx ur the first GNC personnel that has the cojones to say that.. Ive talked to alot of different managers and they just give me the run around tell'n me that its the same. i had a feelin it wasnt .. unfortunately i have a bottle myself that i purchased last week.. ill be on my way now to take it back to get the M1D..

pacn_lbs · 09-23-2007, 11:38 AM

well I took the XL back and got my money back.. I was lucky enought to get a good practically 2 for 1 on M1D online. should get it by wed this week.. Im gonna PCT with 6 OXO or XT.. i read a couple post where some recommend takin a pct during the cycle. all that did was confuse me. should i take the PCT while on M1D or after? any info from the VIPs' will help..

lat3539 · 09-23-2007, 01:30 PM

while on i would use hawthorne berry for blood pressure and red yeast rice for cholesterol any oral is going to mess those up. anti est if you feel symptoms coming on.

**rIPPDUP** · 09-23-2007, 01:58 PM

6oxo and some trib

**T.O** · 09-24-2007, 01:33 AM

Yeah only use a anit estrogen if you start to feel puffy nipples or they become tender.

pacn_lbs · 09-24-2007, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Teamorbit

Yeah only use a anit estrogen if you start to feel puffy nipples or they become tender.

well hopefully i dont get any negative sides.. Thanx for the info greatly appriciated..

pacn_lbs · 09-24-2007, 10:53 AM

Well well well.... I just got an email from LG telling me that they are the same and that they had to change the labels so that GNC can sell it.. I think M1D will soon be banned... GNC ever since the Chris Benoit incident have been pullin product and not takin as many prohormone and test booster as b4.. I still think and am now certain that its still a weaker form.. But i have now 2 bottles of the reg M1D.. just wanted to share this info for everyone..

lat3539 · 09-25-2007, 07:11 PM

like i said before it is a weaker version. its an anti est(1,4,6-etioallocholan-dione) with some long jack and zinc to help test levels. 2 antioxidants. piperine helps enhance effects. coleus forskolin to raise metabolic rate and cissus quadrangularis to help cholesterol and tryglceride levels. so it is a safe test booster. this version wont be banned because it doesnt have any harsh prohormones that methylated but it also doest work as well. we(GNC) are suppose to be getting something called methyl masterdrol XL soon. cant wait to see what that is. we also have the new superdrol ng which is a fancy dhea and tribulus product.

pacn_lbs · 09-26-2007, 09:31 AM

so do u think that XL might be like a PCT?

lat3539 · 09-26-2007, 06:08 PM

yes. that is the main reason it helps raise test levels(anti estrogen). stack it with some good tribulus and you have a nice pct stack.

mh239133 · 09-28-2007, 05:47 PM

yea but why would they put 104 milligrams of the 1,4,6-etioallochin-dione, the estrogen control complex in the regular M1-D, in the XL version when there is only 4 milligrams of it in the regular M1-D. Doesn't that seem a little fishy. Also wouldn't the term XL denote larger than normal? and also GNC has more exposure than the vitamin shoppe so lets play with the idea that they really put 100 milligrams of the anabolic activator in the XL and just labeled the total 104 milligrams as 1,4,6-etioallochin-dione when there is really only 4 MG of it. That way it looks like they only have an estrogen control complex labeled as a "Prohormone complex" They put an extra 15 MG of the anabolic activator in there, 100 as opposed to 85, hence justifying the title XL and they put 135 caps in there instead of 90 (the 135 would be enough for a full 4 week cycle taking 6 caps a day for two week and 4 caps a day for about 2 weeks). 90 caps only covers 22.5 days of taking 4 pills a day (the lowest recommended daily dosage). So, in summary, LG sciences would have a beefier version of M1-D, which would yield better results, in a store with more customer report than the vitamin shoppe while also having GNC think that the product is toned down... or have the public think that GNC thinks that to take all legal liability off of them. Someone at the management level would never know about something like this and plus why would GNC go to the trouble to buy the exclusive rights to sell XL if it was a crapped up version of the original? It would cost them less to just not sell it if the product wouldn't yield results and catch on like wild fire... just a theory.

I bought the XL and im skeptical though so I am going to go get the regular M1-D and then take the XL on the weekends (to block estrogen) so that I can do a full 4 week cycle of it.

**yeahright** · 10-03-2007, 02:52 AM

Sigh. Legal Gear's M-1D is just DHEA (using funky nomenclature to fool people) with a little AI amd some other random bits thrown in.

If you want to take DHEA wih an AI (to minimize estrogen conversion) then there are a lot cheaper alternatives.

If you're looking for an actual PH/PS type product, then this isn't it.

pacn_lbs · 10-16-2007, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rIPPDUP

6oxo and some trib

im goin on week 3 and just doin a 4 week cycle on the M1D.. have got some strength gains and have gain 7 lbs overall.. im gonna do 6oxo with trib like rIPPED said..but which a good trib product and doseage? should i take it after my M1D cycle or start takin on week 4 of M1D.. On the M1D im currently takin 6 caps in 2 divided doses daily.. on the week 4 should i lower the dose? thanx

one more thing.. ive been off creatine for about 2 months now.. will it be ok to run NOXPLOD while on PCT or after? thanx ...sorry for all the questionss....

11BGRUNT · 12-12-2008, 03:43 AM

The REAL Methyl 1-d XL is available at ************.com It has the exact same ingredients as the original Methyl-1D. Here is what each label says

Methyl 1-D:
Anobolic Agent-3-beta-hydroxyetioallocholan-5-ene-17-one
85mg

Estrogen Control Complex: 1,4,6-etioallocholan 4mg

Methyl 1-D XL:
Anabolic/Anti-Estrogenic Complex-
3-beta-hydroxyetioallocholan-5-ene-17-one
3-bete-hydroxy-urs-12-en-28-oic acid
3-beta-hydroxyetioallocholan-17-one

125 mg

The only difference according to these labels is the anti estrogen complex. I looked at the Methyl1-d XL they sell at GNC and it is totally different. I guess there is two versions of Methyl 1-d XL