Havoc and PCT question

Aspire · 09-19-2007, 10:03 PM

I took two bottles of Havoc this summer (8 wk cycle total) and followed that with a bottle of Novedex XT for my pct.

Not, about a month laster, my nipples are a bit sore (though just a little bit bigger). I probably should have taken two bottles of the Novedex then (for 8wks instead of 4), but should I go ahead and start a second bottle now (I finished the first in mid August)? And is that enough for my pct?

Thanks buds!

**mm1snapper** · 09-19-2007, 10:48 PM

Havoc is a steroid(Pro-anabolic) And requires way more than that novadex xt... It should always be ran with a serm due to the fact that it altures all your hormone levels mainly test. As for what you should do is beyond me try messaging LBJ or wait for one of the Vip's to post. You should have done more research before you started that sup.

**rIPPDUP** · 09-20-2007, 12:53 AM

havoc actually isn't a steroid...its a prohormone which stimulates testosterone levels to increase. 6 OXO at 300-400mg ED for 6 weeks bro...pick up some trib & cycle it on a 2 week on 1 off for the 6 week pct on the 6 OXO...

that is straight from the mouth of the notorious lbj to me. i'm taking m-drol and h-drol. i agree with mm1 when you shoulda looked up more info on it. but always follow pct when dealing with prohormones.

Aspire · 09-20-2007, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rIPPDUP

...6 OXO at 300-400mg ED for 6 weeks bro...pick up some trib & cycle it on a 2 week on 1 off for the 6 week pct on the 6 OXO...

So you recommend I do the above starting now, even though I've been off the havoc for awhile now?

Btw, aren't Novedex XT and 6 OXO both Aromatase Inhibitors? Why 6 OXO over XT? Just curious...

p.s. thanks for the help so far, both of you

**rIPPDUP** · 09-20-2007, 01:38 AM

its not one over the other, if you have novedex, sure use it if you don't either that or 6oxo. just throwing out some other suggestions. i'm pretty sure that 6oxo may be cheaper. i'd say to since you've been off since what you said mid august i think in another thread. i mean...it won't hurt you to do the pct now...i'd also add in some trib. just check out your options and prices.

Aspire · 09-20-2007, 01:43 AM

Sweet advice, man. We'll do.

**mm1snapper** · 09-20-2007, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by rIPPDUP

havoc actually isn't a steroid...its a prohormone which stimulates testosterone levels to increase. 6 OXO at 300-400mg ED for 6 weeks bro...pick up some trib & cycle it on a 2 week on 1 off for the 6 week pct on the 6 OXO...

that is straight from the mouth of the notorious lbj to me. i'm taking m-drol and h-drol. i agree with mm1 when you shoulda looked up more info on it. but always follow pct when dealing with prohormones.

They claim that its a pro-h but alot of people at anobolic minds and other respected forums consider it a steroid and im in no place to argue with those guys lol.

**rIPPDUP** · 09-20-2007, 07:05 AM

by the way...anabolic only means muscle building nothing more. "steroid" is labeled so because of the category of drug its in. they don't sell anabolic androgenic steroids at places like the vitamin shoppe where you can get havoc. it might be a very potent pro-h but no where near the realm of steroids bud.

Aspire · 09-20-2007, 09:01 PM

So an AI like the ones we talked about is sufficient for a pct after havoc? I don't need a serm like nolvadex or clomid?

**lil_big_junior** · 09-20-2007, 10:09 PM

covered, lol...thx for the cut & paste rippdup bro, lol, no need to repeat myself...but what i will add...is;
for ph's there's NO NEED for nolva or clomid, these arn't steroids (as much as ppl may hype them out to be) 6 OXO & trib, that's all you'd need, or pick up some LG formadrol as post to trib, it works better IMO

murphdog · 09-20-2007, 11:38 PM

i have a question now, so what is the better cycle to get on lbj lmasterdrol and methyl 1-d or a havoc cycle?

**rIPPDUP** · 09-21-2007, 12:33 AM

methyl 1-d is a wicked product...probably one of the better ones out there