I have a couple questions on what creatine i should take

AvRunningBack1331 · 09-06-2007, 12:06 AM

Ok well right now im 15 years old and am a running back and i have to get bigger that is a must. I work out 3 days a week right now because of my busy schedule but around november i usually start lifting everyday again. I want some kind of creatine that will make me bigger but also i have heard from some people once u stop taking it u get bitch tits from all the water weight. I heard if you take CEE you wont. I also want something that wont mess me up in the long run. If you have any suggestions or are willing to talk with me futher on this topic id really appreciate it.

**rIPPDUP** · 09-06-2007, 12:12 AM

Creatine monohydrate won't give you bitch tits. it's actually better because it helps force water and protein into your muscle cells. i'd tell you to simply eat more and use whey protein because if you don't drink enough water while taking creatine, especially during football while your running a lot you'll dehydrate easily which is definitely horrible. i'm sure other people will post more in here, and all of us are pretty knowledgeable. i'd say take creatine in the off season and stick to the basics during the season (BCAA's, Whey, Glutamine)

**Freak** · 09-06-2007, 12:14 AM

http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/f...87-i-have.html

**Freak** · 09-06-2007, 12:16 AM

Nice post rippedup. Runningback, Eat food and drink water.

**rIPPDUP** · 09-06-2007, 12:17 AM

thanks freak

AvRunningBack1331 · 09-06-2007, 12:18 AM

thats wat ive heard. Ive been told to take it during the offseason. Right now im jsut on weigh protien and it helped alot i used to be tubby but since ive been taking that and working out its converted to muscle. You said to eat a lot what do you reconmend i eat so it doesnt turn into peer fat.?

**rIPPDUP** · 09-06-2007, 12:21 AM

stick to lean meats....chicken and tons of fish. red meat is ok too bud. vegtables and fruits are a must at your age as well as clean carbs such as brown rice, potatoes (not chips). portion your meals and eat multiple times a day between 6-8 times a day.

AvRunningBack1331 · 09-06-2007, 12:26 AM

Right now since im in school i cant really eat a alot but i do eat. Also as everyone everywhere knows they dont serve u the best lunches but i usually get salads or subs with meat and i do eat a lot of vegitables and friut and drink a lot of fluids throughout the day. Should i start making my own meals do u think and eat like a large meal for lunch and have 4 large meals a day or not? Also sometimes i snack on protein bars i usually get around 60 to 70 grams of protein a day

**Freak** · 09-06-2007, 12:29 AM

Fat does not "turn" or convert to muscle. This is a HUGE myth that needs pwned! You lose fat and muscle appears.

Check out the stickies in the nutrition section and this:

http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/f...help-diet.html

AvRunningBack1331 · 09-06-2007, 12:40 AM

well im not trying to loose weight right now im trying to gain as much muscle mass as i can right now but not to get tuby

**Freak** · 09-06-2007, 12:51 AM

I posted a bulking primer (link in post #9)! While you are at it check this thread out too!

http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/f...22612-cut.html

AvRunningBack1331 · 09-06-2007, 12:54 AM

Thanks for your help im going to go check that out then hit the sack ill hopefully talk to ya again soon

**Freak** · 09-06-2007, 03:47 AM

Sounds good! You are at the perfect age to make huge gains if you eat a consistent diet. I would say that the #1 problem by far for people just starting out; especially in their teens is they do not eat enough. You have to get a good diet, understand why it is good, plan it out, prepare meals ahead of time and stay consistent.

**rIPPDUP** · 09-06-2007, 07:09 AM

word freak! definitely beat me to the punch

**heydespo5269** · 09-06-2007, 01:27 PM

Listen to freak and others about diet, but the best supplement I ever took for sports was "Betagen." Do a seach and check it out, but trust me on this one.

I won two team state championships in wrestling and one in football in my highschool career.

( and the wrestling team since I went to school has made it 4 in a row).

AVFullBack32 · 09-06-2007, 11:13 PM

Garrett Welcome to the Dungeon brooo

AvRunningBack1331 · 09-07-2007, 12:36 AM

THanks alot guys and freak i kno i kno u you hate to hear when people ask you what should my diet be and i read the link u sent me about that guys meals do u think i should follow that or not? but also ... Like i said im just getting into all of this and still trying to learn about all the carbohydrates and all the other stuff and how to take good portions of them. So if you could possibly give me an idea to start me out that would be magnificent thanks.

**Freak** · 09-07-2007, 02:57 AM

Runningback sorry you are confused. I LOVE helping people with their diet. I sent you the bulking primer to get you started so you can learn and make your own diet at the same time (best of both worlds). I did not make that for him I made it for everyone who wants to bulk. If you have questions fire away!

AvRunningBack1331 · 09-07-2007, 07:13 PM

alright i read it and am trying to go by it today i had a protein bar throughout my day at school the bar had a total of 32 grams of protein and i brooke it into 4 little chuncks and at them every class(55 min long) and drank a 32 oz. of water an hour cause u said to drink a gallon a day. Is that alright to take protein bars and weigh protein for my daily protein or is food better cause i also had jerky which had 12 grams of protein. Other wise at lunch i eat all my fruits vegitables and meats. same with dinner. Also like u said keep track of what i eat and and do the percentages but where can i go to get percentages? or do i jsut do them myself? thats basically all the questions i have for now

**rIPPDUP** · 09-07-2007, 08:18 PM

do what ya can do man, that's all ya can ya know

musclemaniac uk · 09-07-2007, 08:44 PM

creatine monohydrate is good, but creatine ethyl ester is better cos it is absorbed quicker producing less of the by product creatinine in your liver. just remember to cycle your creatine, it's up to you how you cycle it, but i usually do 6 weeks on and 4 weeks off.

lightbolb · 09-07-2007, 11:49 PM

do monohydrate and ethyl ester do the same thing tho?
apart from being absorbed quicker?
im 16 and after decent creatine aswell.
any brand suggestions on either enthyl or mono?
thanks

AvRunningBack1331 · 09-08-2007, 12:00 AM

Alright well as of right now im doing what tha freak has told me and to not use creatine till the off season also to follow his bulking workout. Thanks tho

musclemaniac uk · 09-08-2007, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by lightbolb

do monohydrate and ethyl ester do the same thing tho?
apart from being absorbed quicker?
im 16 and after decent creatine aswell.
any brand suggestions on either enthyl or mono?
thanks

as far as i kno, the only difference is the rate of absorption. i'll get some more info on it soon and post it for you. as to the brand, it doesn't matter about the brand, they should all be of the same quality, so feel free to go as cheap as you can find.

musclemaniac uk · 09-08-2007, 08:32 AM

after a bit more research(am still not an expert on the subject tho) i found that CEE is just creatine mono with an ester attached, which just increases the rate of absorption like i said before. the advantages of this is less creatinine is produced(creatinine is a toxic by product) there is less bloating, and water retention and most people that have used it prefer it to the mono and found their strength and muscle gains were better than when they used the mono.

AvRunningBack1331 · 09-08-2007, 03:02 PM

ok well not until the off season but thanks tho

AvRunningBack1331 · 09-08-2007, 03:13 PM

Do any of you think anoval is good a lot of kids in my grade take that and are saying its working great.

lightbolb · 09-08-2007, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by musclemaniac uk

after a bit more research(am still not an expert on the subject tho) i found that CEE is just creatine mono with an ester attached, which just increases the rate of absorption like i said before. the advantages of this is less creatinine is produced(creatinine is a toxic by product) there is less bloating, and water retention and most people that have used it prefer it to the mono and found their strength and muscle gains were better than when they used the mono.

Thanks alot musclemanic. much appreciated.
im looking at wild bull micronised creatine mono.
should be alright.
thnx again.
tom

**Freak** · 09-09-2007, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AvRunningBack1331

Alright well as of right now im doing what tha freak has told me and to not use creatine till the off season also to follow his bulking workout. Thanks tho

You can and should use creatine all-year around. Stick to creatine monohydrate.