[ZachNasty]

Say I take 8 fl oz of grape juice and mix it with 5 grams of creatine before I go to the gym. Now i mixed this at 5 pm and I get ot the gym around 6 pm and that drink sits within a range of 2 to 3 hours. Will that creatine lose its quality from sitting in a drink that long????????

[YM123]

i heard someone say, i think it was thomas that using fruit juice will give you an insulin spike and you will not have enough energy in the gym. Could be wrong, wait for thomas to answer

[Thomas_Rivera]

Creatine doesn't stay stable in liquid, it will break down. This is the main reason why creatine sold in liquid or syrup forms for convient use are largely ineffective. Best thing to do if your going to take creatine and need a way to tote it around is to measure out the serving and put it in a small ziplock bag and just toss it in your pocket.

And Yes_Man is right. If you drink juice before your workout you will get an insulin spike, the insulin spike causes the nutrients to be quickly shuttled into the body, this is the reaction that you get from the insuling spike. That means whatever nutrients you had in your system digesting for use during your workout would be absorbed into your body and no longer available.

Same idea of eating alot of candy, then feeling a burst of energy then a crash. Fruit juice is really not the best choice for carbs for preworkout. You'll find that even unsweetened juices will tend to digest several times as quickly as their non-juice counterparts because they lack the extra stuff that slows down digestion. You can use oatmeal, whole wheat bread, or some other slow digesting carb source.

You also don't need to drink juice along with creatine, creatine works when your muscles are saturated with it. There are just two points of debate for creatine pre and post workout. If you were to take creatine preworkout, say an hour to 45 minutes before you workout, the creatine would digest during your workout so for that point, you would be using the creatine you took in to spare your body.

Post workout it gets shuttled in your system quick because you would normally drink juice with some protein. I honestly don't feel that much of a difference taking it preworkout, if your diet is in check you should be able to get through the routine fine.

[PWRofONE]

Originally Posted by Thomas_Rivera

Creatine doesn't stay stable in liquid, it will break down. This is the main reason why creatine sold in liquid or syrup forms for convient use are largely ineffective. Best thing to do if your going to take creatine and need a way to tote it around is to measure out the serving and put it in a small ziplock bag and just toss it in your pocket.

And Yes_Man is right. If you drink juice before your workout you will get an insulin spike, the insulin spike causes the nutrients to be quickly shuttled into the body, this is the reaction that you get from the insuling spike. That means whatever nutrients you had in your system digesting for use during your workout would be absorbed into your body and no longer available.

Same idea of eating alot of candy, then feeling a burst of energy then a crash. Fruit juice is really not the best choice for carbs for preworkout. You'll find that even unsweetened juices will tend to digest several times as quickly as their non-juice counterparts because they lack the extra stuff that slows down digestion. You can use oatmeal, whole wheat bread, or some other slow digesting carb source.

You also don't need to drink juice along with creatine, creatine works when your muscles are saturated with it. There are just two points of debate for creatine pre and post workout. If you were to take creatine preworkout, say an hour to 45 minutes before you workout, the creatine would digest during your workout so for that point, you would be using the creatine you took in to spare your body.

Post workout it gets shuttled in your system quick because you would normally drink juice with some protein. I honestly don't feel that much of a difference taking it preworkout, if your diet is in check you should be able to get through the routine fine.

I completley agree with you thomas, except when I took creatine pre workout I def felt a difference in strength. But supps work differently for everybody

[rawpowermisfit]

creatine is only good for about 15 minutes in liquid before it goes to shit

[Thomas_Rivera]

Yeah they do work differently for everyone. And I guess its how you think about it as well. I think theres also mental aspect to taking it before you workout and think its going to improve your performance.

[PWRofONE]

Originally Posted by Thomas_Rivera

Yeah they do work differently for everyone. And I guess its how you think about it as well. I think theres also mental aspect to taking it before you workout and think its going to improve your performance.

So true. The "placebo" does have its place in bodybuilding too.

[Thomas_Rivera]

I think the placebo effect works better than muscletech :-D

[PWRofONE]

Originally Posted by Thomas_Rivera

I think the placebo effect works better than muscletech :-D

haha You bet it does

[ChrisX]

Originally Posted by Thomas_Rivera

Creatine doesn't stay stable in liquid, it will break down. This is the main reason why creatine sold in liquid or syrup forms for convient use are largely ineffective. Best thing to do if your going to take creatine and need a way to tote it around is to measure out the serving and put it in a small ziplock bag and just toss it in your pocket.

And Yes_Man is right. If you drink juice before your workout you will get an insulin spike, the insulin spike causes the nutrients to be quickly shuttled into the body, this is the reaction that you get from the insuling spike. That means whatever nutrients you had in your system digesting for use during your workout would be absorbed into your body and no longer available.

Same idea of eating alot of candy, then feeling a burst of energy then a crash. Fruit juice is really not the best choice for carbs for preworkout. You'll find that even unsweetened juices will tend to digest several times as quickly as their non-juice counterparts because they lack the extra stuff that slows down digestion. You can use oatmeal, whole wheat bread, or some other slow digesting carb source.

You also don't need to drink juice along with creatine, creatine works when your muscles are saturated with it. There are just two points of debate for creatine pre and post workout. If you were to take creatine preworkout, say an hour to 45 minutes before you workout, the creatine would digest during your workout so for that point, you would be using the creatine you took in to spare your body.

Post workout it gets shuttled in your system quick because you would normally drink juice with some protein. I honestly don't feel that much of a difference taking it preworkout, if your diet is in check you should be able to get through the routine fine.

Wouldnt that be bad if a cop mistaked it as cocaine lol.

[Thomas_Rivera]

Lol. Yeah, it would be bad if they mistaked it. But they would either have to test it on the spot with a kit, or put it on their tongue to see if it gets numb.