testosterone

redfirebirdowner · 05-08-2007, 04:20 AM

I am looking for something to give me that drive I need to work out . I work 10 hour shifts til late I need to be able to work out hard like i want to . i know steroids are out of the question for me I want something that works in the same way without the side effects. I think my testosterone needs a boost any suggestions would be greatly appreciated:105318061

aleksandar · 05-08-2007, 05:25 AM

ahhh mybe give tribulus a try...anyone agree?

ACEPLUMBING · 05-08-2007, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by aleksandar

ahhh mybe give tribulus a try...anyone agree?

60 days on 30 days off 60 days on see the results

to makes ur dk bigger too lol

Burchelli · 05-08-2007, 09:03 AM

Freaking tribulus! Most overrated, unworking supplement based on it's clames on supplement market today, avoid it with all cost.

There is no supplement out there that will "INCREASE YOUR TESTOSTERONE AND GROWTH HORMONE PRODUCTION". Take steroids instead, and even they will increae your own production by few tens of percentage's only!

Seriously, you wan't to increase your own production's? Well start eating good greens like parsley, seller... everything that taste's rat poison basicly, and eat some meat foods.

Secondly, don't jack off before training. You want a pump? Watch porn, and live in selibasy for awhile. Results are guaranteed.

**cook82** · 05-08-2007, 02:10 PM

actually i have to disagree with the trib comment everytime i have taken it it's cause my skin to be more oily and increased acne ( both side effects of increased test) so i have to believe that it is working to some extent. But if you want to take a natural test booster you could take a trib,long jack,zma stack.
But what it sound like to me is your tired after working all day so you dont have alot of energy in the gym. What you need is a pre workout drink with tons of caffeine or just some caffeine supps.

**lil_big_junior** · 05-08-2007, 02:27 PM

ive used trib & results were good...obviously u can never compare AAS to any pro-hormones, so dont even bring them into the equation
trib is a good thing to take bro, have a look at legal gears stuff, although formadrol is really for PCT u can make some pretty nice decent gains on it. check it out

Burchelli · 05-08-2007, 02:38 PM

I also have experiment with tribuls, more than you guys have I'm sure, why else would I say this.
I've tryed tribulus literally with 30 tablets a day, 10 tablets three times a day and nothing happent, nothing. I've tryed cycling every single zma, tribuls and bull**** product there is, and the result is, there is no difference than if I take a banana and whey protein before training or 90 euros worth of crap.

What matters is that you keep your body in anabolic state through out the day, eat smaller meals 6 times a day or something. Eat oatmeals for carb intake that's how you keep your blood sugar stable.

ZMA is nothing more than magnesium kalsium and kalium... useless product, you get that crap out of any vitamin or mineral product, and food.

Perhaps tribulus works to those who have allready LOWER testosterone production.

Everyone go ahead and try tribulus, but the place I buy it it costs 20 euros sharp, so it's worth a try here. But if you have to spend more than that, ask if you can get your money back if it won't work.

M1T Is perhaps the most anabolic leagel substance there is. Or has there come even better product?

**bbdude** · 05-08-2007, 02:59 PM

use tribulus... point made...

Burchelli · 05-08-2007, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bbdude

use tribulus... point made...

... point not taken...

M1T, though has given results to almsot everyone. Good or bad results, but M1T has actually had an affect to the body.

Just because I got 1-2 reps more when using tribuls doesn't mean it wasn't because I ate right, slept right.

Tribulus never got me 45lbs more to my warm up weight's or 10 rep max outs. Only drugs have done that for people, not tribulus.

If tribuls rly worked, I'm sure your avatar would consist bigger, more ripped and better looking back.
Ofcourse, then eating, training and resting comes to play.... but, then, it's not about tribuls will you get an extra advantage of training and get a better looking avatar of your back.

Your thought's?

**lil_big_junior** · 05-08-2007, 03:15 PM

u used a **** brand bro...dont bring experience into it cos there will always be someone with experience greater than yours. im not taking anything away from u here nor i mean any disrespect but, i see your only 20 so i doubt your experience on the subject will be all that great

i used trib on many occassions, to hit some big numbers...

& m1t is not the most potent prohormone out there, but it is one of the most toxic along side with superdrol... if u wanna kill off your liver go for it, you will be better off juicing, there'll be less side effects.

m1d is prolly the best choice of a prohormone. tribulus does work, but go for a good brand, or possibly romanian trib, its a good product

Burchelli · 05-08-2007, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lil_big_junior

u used a **** brand bro...dont bring experience into it cos there will always be someone with experience greater than yours. im not taking anything away from u here nor i mean any disrespect but, i see your only 20 so i doubt your experience on the subject will be all that great

i used trib on many occassions, to hit some big numbers...

& m1t is not the most potent prohormone out there, but it is one of the most toxic along side with superdrol... if u wanna kill off your liver go for it, you will be better off juicing, there'll be less side effects.

m1d is prolly the best choice of a prohormone. tribulus does work, but go for a good brand, or possibly romanian trib, its a good product

Maby it's because this ****ing EU directive rules will bann anything that works.

You're probably right. I have, though, used a product that got 80 euros away from my wallet. Not much difference, but 2 reps in here and there.

America has better supplements that's for sure. But you're right. But doesn't mean I'm wrong neither

**lil_big_junior** · 05-08-2007, 03:32 PM

not at all bro i didnt say u were wrong...but try a better brand on the trib front.

but about the m1t i strongly disagree to it being the most potent, still, do somemore research on it, its off putting...

i do agree with the EU tho...i live in the UK, its hard to find prohormones over here thats not over priced...

redfirebirdowner · 05-08-2007, 04:18 PM

Thanks everyone that posted. I will look into it some more

redfirebirdowner · 05-08-2007, 04:20 PM

Thanks I'll look into it some more

misterbig · 05-08-2007, 04:25 PM

I tried 2 bottles of Netrients Testone.
Instead of just boosting your testorterone level,it's an anti-aromataze that stop testosterone convertion (aromatization to be exact) to estrogen by aromataze enzyme.

It worked great on my libido and my strenght.

A buddy of mine gained 7 lbs in 4 weeks (at double dosage).

Try give it a try . Its like Gapari Novedex but a little bit better. ( I got more result with the Testone).

Its sure its not like steroids,but will help a lot.

ACEPLUMBING · 05-08-2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bbdude

use tribulus... point made...

if u use trib at 14 u'll have a 30 cm ****

**cook82** · 05-08-2007, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by lil_big_junior

u used a **** brand bro...dont bring experience into it cos there will always be someone with experience greater than yours. im not taking anything away from u here nor i mean any disrespect but, i see your only 20 so i doubt your experience on the subject will be all that great

i used trib on many occassions, to hit some big numbers...

& m1t is not the most potent prohormone out there, but it is one of the most toxic along side with superdrol... if u wanna kill off your liver go for it, you will be better off juicing, there'll be less side effects.

m1d is prolly the best choice of a prohormone. tribulus does work, but go for a good brand, or possibly romanian trib, its a good product

100% right methly 1-t is horrible on your liver. anything methylated is extremley hard on your liver

**lil_big_junior** · 05-08-2007, 05:36 PM

right im hearing alot of rumours here...trib, dhea & oxo makes your **** bigger...not that i have probs in that department, but where are u finding this info???just curious

**lil_big_junior** · 05-08-2007, 05:37 PM

thx for having my back cook...

**cook82** · 05-08-2007, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Burchelli

I also have experiment with tribuls, more than you guys have I'm sure, why else would I say this.
I've tryed tribulus literally with 30 tablets a day, 10 tablets three times a day and nothing happent, nothing. I've tryed cycling every single zma, tribuls and bull**** product there is, and the result is, there is no difference than if I take a banana and whey protein before training or 90 euros worth of crap.

What matters is that you keep your body in anabolic state through out the day, eat smaller meals 6 times a day or something. Eat oatmeals for carb intake that's how you keep your blood sugar stable.

ZMA is nothing more than magnesium kalsium and kalium... useless product, you get that crap out of any vitamin or mineral product, and food.

Perhaps tribulus works to those who have allready LOWER testosterone production.

Everyone go ahead and try tribulus, but the place I buy it it costs 20 euros sharp, so it's worth a try here. But if you have to spend more than that, ask if you can get your money back if it won't work.

M1T Is perhaps the most anabolic leagel substance there is. Or has there come even better product?

What are you talking about ZMA is just magnesium kalsium? (not even sure if kalsium is a substance) did you mean calcium? anyways ZMA is actually Zinc Monomethionine Aspartate plus Magnesium Aspartate and vitamin B-6, and Studies have shown that supplementing with 30mg of Zinc and 450mg of Magnesium per day can elevate testosterone levels. Plus it gives GREAT slepp which aids in recovery and you have awsome dreams while taking it. It also can help with PCT for PH's if taken in conjunction with proper PCT supp's

**cook82** · 05-08-2007, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lil_big_junior

thx for having my back cook...

anytime bro

**cook82** · 05-08-2007, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lil_big_junior

right im hearing alot of rumours here...trib, dhea & oxo makes your **** bigger...not that i have probs in that department, but where are u finding this info???just curious

dont know about that but in theory NO products (which dont work for me) can increase the size of your junk because its a muscle and NO is supposed to increase the amount of blood flow to you muscles.

ACEPLUMBING · 05-08-2007, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lil_big_junior

right im hearing alot of rumours here...trib, dhea & oxo makes your **** bigger...not that i have probs in that department, but where are u finding this info???just curious

LOL....gettin close to 9 inchs...lol it works

**lil_big_junior** · 05-08-2007, 06:10 PM

well when my ex gf measured mine, it was around 8"+, yea...im blessed, lol. but **** me 9"...i done jelking techniques for many years...since i was 16, dont do it now tho, stoppped about 2-3 years ago