[V man]

what is the best supplement
creatine monohyrate
cell tech
cell tech hardcore

is there any better ones out there that i should know about and that works fast and thats realy good

[V man]

yea i forgot ce2 stacking with no2 also let me know how does that prodyct work

[V man]

any sugestions whats best to take also include if u use it after u get off it that u dont lose all the gains u gained

ANYONE
im kinda new to this stuff

[Freak]

It seems you might be over supplementing. Not sure exactly what you are asking but when you stop using creatine the only difference you will recognize is you won't have to urinate as often and you might lose a little size but that is attributed only to water loss.

[V man]

naw im not oversuplementing im not on none of these products im just wondering what works the best

[Addicted2Liftin]

What i have noticed is when people start getting into the supplement world the first thing that happens is they get ripped off....and i mean RIPPED OFF...by MuscleTech specifically. They advertise so heavily and enticingly that they lure the inexperienced in. If you are new to bodybuilding, i strongly advise saving your money. There is no fast way to get lean and ripped, it just will not happen. Lift hard, eat, sleep.....and grow,

-A2L

[robbobsten21]

I agree. I took absolutely nothing when i started lifting. i've been lifting for a little over a year and a half and just started about 2 months ago taking Animal Pak and protein. I was experiencing enough gains where i felt i didn't need supplements. I would recommend to any beginners to not worry about taking supplements, and just learn to train properly and eat healthy.

[Addicted2Liftin]

Absolutely.....yet i tend to not consider protein a supplement......moreso a necessity

-A2L

[Awwsum Fire]

Supplementing is just that supplementing; too many people think that by taking something over the counter they are going to get the great result. The purpose of taking any supplement is to provide the body with what it missed from normal diet.

This is true of protein and vitamins for the most part; however creatine and NO (nitric Oxides) have a different purpose all together.

Addressing Creatine
Since the body can only store very small amounts of ATP creatine acts as the primary supplier of ATP levels especially during high intensity muscle building exercises. Without getting too technical this allow the muscles to contract with more intensity, and for a greater duration then they would other wise.
Since ATP production can be counter in long period it is smart to cycle creatine and I would suggest that you do this by monitoring your results, not everyone’s body work on a 6 week cycle.
The bodybuilding and supplement world has tried the hardest to cure this time restraint on creatine by micronizing it, buffering it, and a dozen different other methods of delivering it into your blood stream but the only real advancement over monohydrate ( which sucks ) is ethyl ester creatine, and it still has the same body adaptation problems.
When buying creatine buy by the ingredients and cost, not name brand there really is no difference in quality.

Now for NO’s
Arginine alpha-Ketoglutarate (AKG sometimes A-AKG) is the main ingredient in all forms of Nitric Oxides the level varies form about 3grams to about 3.5 grams a serving. Most science suggests that it takes about 3 grams a day to produce proper vasodilatation. Actual NO have their origin in medicine first and bodybuilding second, so unlike many “for bodybuilding products” there is real science behind their use.
There are two properties that brought No into the bodybuilding world the first was it ability to increase blood flow (often used in the natural treatment of EDS, heart disease, as well as diabetes) By increasing blood flow more nutrient can get to the muscles thus building bigger and stronger muscles. It is the increase blood flow that gives you the crazy pump with NOs.
The second and more over looked property of NO is they are a natural anti-inflammatory which helps to fight off DOMS ( delayed onset Muscle soreness) the day after a workout allowing you to recover faster and start building muscle sooner.
Same as creatine buy for ingredients not name brand!

[Eric23]

Originally Posted by Addicted2Liftin

What i have noticed is when people start getting into the supplement world the first thing that happens is they get ripped off....and i mean RIPPED OFF...by MuscleTech specifically. They advertise so heavily and enticingly that they lure the inexperienced in. If you are new to bodybuilding, i strongly advise saving your money. There is no fast way to get lean and ripped, it just will not happen. Lift hard, eat, sleep.....and grow,

-A2L

Hey man I 100% agree with you on that. I think they spend to much making there labels look colorful. Muscletech didn't do a thing for me, except for burn a hole in my pocket

[PatFactorX]

Creatine Ethly Ester is the best supp

[powershout]

BCAA

[V man]

Originally Posted by Awwsum Fire

Supplementing is just that supplementing; too many people think that by taking something over the counter they are going to get the great result. The purpose of taking any supplement is to provide the body with what it missed from normal diet.

This is true of protein and vitamins for the most part; however creatine and NO (nitric Oxides) have a different purpose all together.

Addressing Creatine
Since the body can only store very small amounts of ATP creatine acts as the primary supplier of ATP levels especially during high intensity muscle building exercises. Without getting too technical this allow the muscles to contract with more intensity, and for a greater duration then they would other wise.
Since ATP production can be counter in long period it is smart to cycle creatine and I would suggest that you do this by monitoring your results, not everyone’s body work on a 6 week cycle.
The bodybuilding and supplement world has tried the hardest to cure this time restraint on creatine by micronizing it, buffering it, and a dozen different other methods of delivering it into your blood stream but the only real advancement over monohydrate ( which sucks ) is ethyl ester creatine, and it still has the same body adaptation problems.
When buying creatine buy by the ingredients and cost, not name brand there really is no difference in quality.

Now for NO’s
Arginine alpha-Ketoglutarate (AKG sometimes A-AKG) is the main ingredient in all forms of Nitric Oxides the level varies form about 3grams to about 3.5 grams a serving. Most science suggests that it takes about 3 grams a day to produce proper vasodilatation. Actual NO have their origin in medicine first and bodybuilding second, so unlike many “for bodybuilding products” there is real science behind their use.
There are two properties that brought No into the bodybuilding world the first was it ability to increase blood flow (often used in the natural treatment of EDS, heart disease, as well as diabetes) By increasing blood flow more nutrient can get to the muscles thus building bigger and stronger muscles. It is the increase blood flow that gives you the crazy pump with NOs.
The second and more over looked property of NO is they are a natural anti-inflammatory which helps to fight off DOMS ( delayed onset Muscle soreness) the day after a workout allowing you to recover faster and start building muscle sooner.
Same as creatine buy for ingredients not name brand!

so basicly the best thing is
CE2 AND STACKED WITH NO2

[Awwsum Fire]

You don't have to stack them but to get the best results I would but remember it the ingredients that you're stacking not the brand name. buy the least costly

[Jonathan215]

i agree no2 and ce2 i gaind at least 10 lbs on a 20 day cycle. and i kept the weight on.

[Addicted2Liftin]

Originally Posted by Jonathan215

i agree no2 and ce2 i gaind at least 10 lbs on a 20 day cycle. and i kept the weight on.

Thats not possible......especially on OTC supplements; i dont care what they are. What you gained is almost all water weight.....and some muscle. As humans we can only gain 2-5lb of muscle per month....fact

-A2L

[trapman]

Hopefully everyone knows diet is the most important.
I like atlargenutrition solid stuff, no fluff
Creatine
nitrean
they have a mrp too
ets haven't used but hear great things
multi vit

[Awwsum Fire]

I don't know where you got your information about the limits of human potential but there is no fact antidotal, scientific, or from theory that would back such a horrific claim of only 5 pounds per month!

I remember reading years ago a bodybuilder said that you could only ingest 30 grams of protein per serving, and I could not stop laughing at the stupidly of that statement and it was given by a professional bodybuilder in an advice column.

True, I think 10 lbs in twenty day is a bit difficult to believe however it is very possible.

And what is this thing you young guys got against water weight? What is the human body composition? The average person is 70 percent water and muscles are about the same. If you gain muscle without the increase in water your muscles would have no attached strength because of failed message transmission. Calcium could not send contraction signals to the muscles and potassium would levels would cause the heart to go into cardiac arrest, or sporadic beats if there was not enough potassium available.

Do you really understand what you are saying? Even in the contest times when we are trying to sharpen muscle clarity as much as possible we must still retain enough water both subdermial and subcutaneous, to stay alive!
Do any of you remember how Mohomad Benazzia died? It was so much more than just diuretics!