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Old 01-12-2007, 02:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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anybody read about this stuff on the page says it increases test and sounds pretty good anyone else have thoughts???
 



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Old 01-16-2007, 12:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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anybody read about this stuff on the page says it increases test and sounds pretty good anyone else have thoughts???
do you mean ZMA?
 
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Old 01-16-2007, 12:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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its called zma and you take it before you go to bed, it works great with recovery, if you sleep for 6 hours it makes you feel like youslept for 9 im dead serious. I love it, it increases your natural testosterone, and no it doesnt have any inhancer things in it its just pills. i recomend it
 
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Old 01-16-2007, 10:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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is it expensive??
 
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Old 01-16-2007, 10:53 PM   #5 (permalink)
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no.
 
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Old 01-17-2007, 05:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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its dirt cheap , i recomend primaforce zma , or now
 
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Old 01-17-2007, 06:47 PM   #7 (permalink)
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All it is zinc and magnessium.
 
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Old 01-19-2007, 12:19 AM   #8 (permalink)
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also b6, some companies throw in other **** , but stick to the basics , basics work best
 
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just zinc and magnesium?? ehh..most people are deficient in zinc anyway
 
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Old 01-19-2007, 02:48 AM   #10 (permalink)
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ZMA is claimed to raise testosterone and IGF-1 levels which may aid in gaining muscle size and strength. While studies have shown that most Americans get enough zinc and Vitamin B6, less than 50% get enough magnesium. BUT!!!
1: its now just zinc and magnesium.( if you go to GNC and just ask them bout ZMA they will throw something like "MHPs T-BOMB" in your face. Price: about $50 for a bottle. And as far as i know its mixed with other stuff like: Tribulus terrestris (the stuff that really increases your testosterone production); Bioperine - Black Pepper Extract ("promotes nutrient absorption"); Flaxseed (again, makes sense since fat increases you testosterone level).
2: It also makes you lose your hair(ONLY IF YOU ARE PRONE TO HAIR LOSS) LOL With extra testosterone in your system, your body converts most of it to DHT a.k.a Dihydrotestosterone (a hormone commonly implicated in male baldness,development of acne, produced from testosterone).
All thou all this sounds very scary if you think about it, in reality its not that bad.
If you are loosing hair then you are most likely to shed while taking ZMA, and if you are not prone to it then you wont lose any hair even if you get on some serious gear. And yes, you will get stronger. So i say give it a try, see how it goes.
 
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Old 01-19-2007, 07:48 AM   #11 (permalink)
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ZMA is claimed to raise testosterone and IGF-1 levels which may aid in gaining muscle size and strength. While studies have shown that most Americans get enough zinc and Vitamin B6, less than 50% get enough magnesium. BUT!!!
1: its now just zinc and magnesium.( if you go to GNC and just ask them bout ZMA they will throw something like "MHPs T-BOMB" in your face. Price: about $50 for a bottle. And as far as i know its mixed with other stuff like: Tribulus terrestris (the stuff that really increases your testosterone production); Bioperine - Black Pepper Extract ("promotes nutrient absorption"); Flaxseed (again, makes sense since fat increases you testosterone level).
2: It also makes you lose your hair(ONLY IF YOU ARE PRONE TO HAIR LOSS) LOL With extra testosterone in your system, your body converts most of it to DHT a.k.a Dihydrotestosterone (a hormone commonly implicated in male baldness,development of acne, produced from testosterone).
All thou all this sounds very scary if you think about it, in reality its not that bad.
If you are loosing hair then you are most likely to shed while taking ZMA, and if you are not prone to it then you wont lose any hair even if you get on some serious gear. And yes, you will get stronger. So i say give it a try, see how it goes.
It doesnt raise testosterone above normal physiological levels. It MIGHT help in increasing the release during REM sleep but even then its just to bring back to normal physiological levels. There is zero data showing a pronounced increase at all in normal people.

You are giving it a bit too much credit.

It does have positive effects but its very miniscule not to mention you can buy a bottle of zinc and magnessium for about half the price.

Take it before bed just like the overpriced "ZMA" product.
 
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