[monohydratebob]

Hey guys i think ive narrowed this down and i would like your guys opinions. Im new to body building and I am almost 17. To get to the point. I narrowed down my supplements down to GNC branched chain amino acids, glutamine, muscle milk protein shake for after workout and muscle tech cell tech creatine formula because its creatine mono and lots of it for cheap price. I figured that all this stuff is basic and if i eat right lift and take my vitamins with this then i can have good results, nothing special just glutamine,bcaas,protein,and creatine monohydrate, creatine anhydrous, dicreatine malate, and creatine alpha-ketoglutarate all mixed together. please tell me your opinions and im sorry for posting so many threads, im an interested new guy :) thanks all

[Freak]

Don't forget EFA's. I would stay away from muscletech and find something just as good but less expensive.

[monohydratebob]

well I mean is the muscle tech good if i have the money for it? and what are EFA's?

[Freak]

Muscletech: No because the money saved could be spent on something else or invested. More expensive does not equal more effective.

Bodybuilding.com - EFA Information and Product Listing! EFA FAQ!

[tjbentham]

muscletech lol......supplements are not magic potions get the basics down and pay ur dues

[monohydratebob]

ok well do you have any ideas other than muscle tech but just as good?

[brutal_mass1]

Brothers..you all have probably heard me say this before..but you wanna grow with some extra help..get the BSN Mass stack. My trianing partner went from 135 to 181(lean,still has a six pack) in 3 or 4 months right before my eye. I myself am investing in the mass stack.

Universal Animal pak is good too. You might want to try this too.

It's milos Sarcevs secret recipe..his power shakes::

PREWORKOUT(20-30 mins before workout)
3-5 Grams of creatine
3-10grams of Glutamine
15-20grams of eaa
30-50 grams of vitargo
1 tsp electrolyte drink powder( like gatorade)

During workout(3/4 of the way through workout)
3-5 Grams of creatine
3-10grams of Glutamine
15-20grams of eaa
15 Grams of BCAAS
50 grams of vitargo
1 tsp electrolyte drink powder( like gatorade)

Postworkout
3-5 g creatine
3-10 g glutamine
40-50 g whey protein isolate and hrdrolysates
50-75 g vitargo
1 tsp electrolyte drink powder

Taking a shake during a workout is probably outside most trainers norm. Nutrients from the powershake taken during training are taken directly to your muscles most efficiently. Sarcev himself states" You're playing with the potency of the strongest anabolic hormone--insulin. Using vitargo( a high molecular weight glucose polymer) is going to spike insulin; it creates hyperinsulin levels in the body.I say that insulin is your best friend,not your worst enemy--if you know how to use it to your advantage. Blood flow (and therefore nutrient uptake by muscles) increases during training. We have about five liters of blood circulating normally each minute. During training we have about 25 liters of blood circulating per minute (due to increased heart rate and volume of blood being pumped by the heart). That's an increase of 5 times. While resting approx. 20% of those 5 liters goes to muscle tissue, but when training about 80% of the 25 liters go into muscle tissue. Nutrient uptake is not just enhanced 5 times as much, but 20 times as much. So if you have all the essential amino acids and glucose available and insulin in the blood,the blood is 20x more effective in delivering all these nutrients into the trained muscle fibers. With the presence of creatine, a miracle wcan happen and a micracle always does happen with all the athletes I train."

Thats all from the big man himself.Don't believe me? Check the new issue of Flex with Jay on the cover.

I hope my info has helped out. I too am a teen bodybuilder(16) so anything to help my brothers,both young and old

[Freak]

Originally Posted by brutal_mass1

Brothers..you all have probably heard me say this before..but you wanna grow with some extra help..get the BSN Mass stack. My trianing partner went from 135 to 181(lean,still has a six pack) in 3 or 4 months right before my eye. I myself am investing in the mass stack.

Universal Animal pak is good too. You might want to try this too.

It's milos Sarcevs secret recipe..his power shakes::

PREWORKOUT(20-30 mins before workout)
3-5 Grams of creatine
3-10grams of Glutamine
15-20grams of eaa
30-50 grams of vitargo
1 tsp electrolyte drink powder( like gatorade)

During workout(3/4 of the way through workout)
3-5 Grams of creatine
3-10grams of Glutamine
15-20grams of eaa
15 Grams of BCAAS
50 grams of vitargo
1 tsp electrolyte drink powder( like gatorade)

Postworkout
3-5 g creatine
3-10 g glutamine
40-50 g whey protein isolate and hrdrolysates
50-75 g vitargo
1 tsp electrolyte drink powder

Taking a shake during a workout is probably outside most trainers norm. Nutrients from the powershake taken during training are taken directly to your muscles most efficiently. Sarcev himself states" You're playing with the potency of the strongest anabolic hormone--insulin. Using vitargo( a high molecular weight glucose polymer) is going to spike insulin; it creates hyperinsulin levels in the body.I say that insulin is your best friend,not your worst enemy--if you know how to use it to your advantage. Blood flow (and therefore nutrient uptake by muscles) increases during training. We have about five liters of blood circulating normally each minute. During training we have about 25 liters of blood circulating per minute (due to increased heart rate and volume of blood being pumped by the heart). That's an increase of 5 times. While resting approx. 20% of those 5 liters goes to muscle tissue, but when training about 80% of the 25 liters go into muscle tissue. Nutrient uptake is not just enhanced 5 times as much, but 20 times as much. So if you have all the essential amino acids and glucose available and insulin in the blood,the blood is 20x more effective in delivering all these nutrients into the trained muscle fibers. With the presence of creatine, a miracle wcan happen and a micracle always does happen with all the athletes I train."

Thats all from the big man himself.Don't believe me? Check the new issue of Flex with Jay on the cover.

I hope my info has helped out. I too am a teen bodybuilder(16) so anything to help my brothers,both young and old

Animal pak and Muscletech are both expensive wastes of money, buy more food and reasonable priced supplements that work just as well.

[IronTooks]

Originally Posted by monohydratebob

Hey guys i think ive narrowed this down and i would like your guys opinions. Im new to body building and I am almost 17. To get to the point. I narrowed down my supplements down to GNC branched chain amino acids, glutamine, muscle milk protein shake for after workout and muscle tech cell tech creatine formula because its creatine mono and lots of it for cheap price. I figured that all this stuff is basic and if i eat right lift and take my vitamins with this then i can have good results, nothing special just glutamine,bcaas,protein,and creatine monohydrate, creatine anhydrous, dicreatine malate, and creatine alpha-ketoglutarate all mixed together. please tell me your opinions and im sorry for posting so many threads, im an interested new guy :) thanks all

Muscle Milk is not a post workout shake because it isn't whey protein its casien protein which takes hours to digest, thats why you take a muscle milk shake before bed..

[Freak]

Whey - 2hrs
Casein 5-7
Egg - 3
Soy- 5

[IronTooks]

Originally Posted by thefreak350

Whey - 2hrs
Casein 5-7
Egg - 3
Soy- 5

Thanks for that info I had an idea on casein and whey but never knew exactly how long it took.

[monohydratebob]

besides the fact cell tech is expensive, is there anything wrong with it, i mean i got money to spend once for it so i think im going to buy it unless its **** so let me know anyone