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Old 09-02-2006, 11:59 PM   #1
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alright i have been looking for new suppkements to take because mine are getting low i dont want to take juice but where i live there is a hardcore gym that has good supplements and is know for having people who are big into steriods there. i was going to take 1-AD but thats super hard to find now that it is baned ...the owner of the gym suggested i should take "Methyl 1-test" and said it works alot better.from reading some stuff on it it sounds pretty mush like a legal steroid and i am second thinking if i want to take it.. has anyon ever been on it and did you have any bad reactions?
 
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Old 09-03-2006, 09:57 AM   #2
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True M1T was a prohormone which came under the ban. If they are selling the real stuff, then it is an illegal product, and if not, it isn't worth your money. Prohormones are effective in a limited way, but they are much harsher and more toxic to the system than real gear. They also are usually much more expensive.
 
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Old 09-03-2006, 10:32 AM   #3
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M1T is a steroid.
 
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Old 09-03-2006, 10:56 AM   #4
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Dont even waste your time with m1t. Sides are very harsh, plus its illegal.
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Old 09-03-2006, 12:49 PM   #5
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M1T is not a prohormone, as prohormone denotes requiring conversion to the active hormone within the body. Methyl-1-Testosterone is an active steroid, which is extremely potent in both it's anabolic/androgenic activity and the side effects it brings. Stay away from it.



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Old 09-03-2006, 12:50 PM   #6
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well on the bottel it says"legal gear" and they are methyl gel caps. when i searched for info on it i also found 1-AD that had "legal gear" on the top of it as well so my guess is that is the company...?on the bottel it says no more then 2pills a day and no longer then 2 weeks. do you guys still think this is the juice.if so im prolly just gonne get my money back and get a real supplement thats not gonna kill me ha..
 
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well on the bottel it says"legal gear" and they are methyl gel caps. when i searched for info on it i also found 1-AD that had "legal gear" on the top of it as well so my guess is that is the company...?on the bottel it says no more then 2pills a day and no longer then 2 weeks. do you guys still think this is the juice.if so im prolly just gonne get my money back and get a real supplement thats not gonna kill me ha..
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Yes, as I said above METHYL-1-TESTOSTERONE IS A VERY POTENT STEROID. It is the 'juice' as you so eloquently put it.
 
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Old 09-03-2006, 01:27 PM   #8
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M1T is a prohormone, and it is covered under the prohormone ban. It is not a steroid(I mean it is by definition, but not legally classified as such). It is the methylated version of 1 testosterone. This was done to protect it from destruction by the liver(the reason most steroids cannot be effective orally). Being methylated, it is also extremely hepatotoxic. 1 testosterone could be called a steroid because it is a hormone, but it was classified as a prohormone due to technicalities. It fell under the loop hole, and it was legal for awhile, but has since been banned. The crap he bought is some chemically re-engineered product which may or may not be technically legal now, but is no doubt worthless and very probably dangerous health wise.
 
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Old 09-03-2006, 01:58 PM   #9
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M1T is a prohormone, and it is covered under the prohormone ban. It is not a steroid(I mean it is by definition, but not legally classified as such). It is the methylated version of 1 testosterone. This was done to protect it from destruction by the liver(the reason most steroids cannot be effective orally). Being methylated, it is also extremely hepatotoxic. 1 testosterone could be called a steroid because it is a hormone, but it was classified as a prohormone due to technicalities. It fell under the loop hole, and it was legal for awhile, but has since been banned. The crap he bought is some chemically re-engineered product which may or may not be technically legal now, but is no doubt worthless and very probably dangerous health wise.
"A prohormone is a chemical compound that is a precursor to a hormone, usually with minimal hormonal effect by itself. The term has been used in medical science since the middle of the 20th century. Examples of natural, human prohormones include proinsulin and pro-opiomelanocortin. The conversion process from prohormone to hormone is typically a single step, and a location for regulatory control."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohormone

You are right on one account, 1-Testosterone is technically not a prohormone, it is a 5-alpha reduced version of boldenone. It was only called 1-Testosterone because it is very chemically similar to Test, only that it has a 1,2 double bond as opposed to a 4,5 double bond. Methyl-1-Testosterone is a alfa alkylated at the 17th carbon, which as you said, allows it to survive first pass liver oxidization. So, as I said, it is not a prohormone irregardless of the legal nomenclature which labelled it as such. It is a potent anabolic steroid with very potent effects.
 
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Old 09-03-2006, 04:23 PM   #10
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The prohormone ban is classified under the steroid act in as it is a schedule 3 drug. If it came under the prohomone ban then it has the same charge as "juice"


M1T will get you the same charges as DBOL, Winstrol, etc.




Back to the original poster. If you're going to mess around with gear then other options are safer. M1T is a solid steroid but the negatives outweight the positives. This is both personal experience talking and common sense.
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Heres my tips on it, Im weighing in at 280lbs right now and im also 16, so i guess i know how to gain weight, but my genetics suck also but anyways:
1. eat icecream or snack foods before going to sleep.
2. dont workout for a few days and just pig as much as possible.
3. take some creatine, i gained over 40lbs from creatine *dam it

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thank all of you for the info and for helping me out ...i was stupid nd tryed it for a day but no harm in it..anyway ill prolyl just get rid of it at the gym i work at or something...anyone have a idea of what is the best thing from GNC or stores like it to take.... i wanna put on mass but not get bloated or lose alot of rips that i have now?
 
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since you are all talking about prohormones is mega trn a ph?
 
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Old 09-04-2006, 01:45 AM   #13
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TRn is a PH. Birdy555, stay away from GNC. They have neither the variety or price you can find online and if you're going to support a brick and morter shop, find a mom and pop type to support.

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Heres my tips on it, Im weighing in at 280lbs right now and im also 16, so i guess i know how to gain weight, but my genetics suck also but anyways:
1. eat icecream or snack foods before going to sleep.
2. dont workout for a few days and just pig as much as possible.
3. take some creatine, i gained over 40lbs from creatine *dam it

Hangin's too good for 'em! BURNIN'S too good for 'em! They should be ripped into itsy-bitsy little pieces and BURIED ALIVE!
 
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