ICEMAN, I'm no expert, but i did do about 4 different cycles of prohormones back from 2000-2003 when they were still legal here the states. To make a long post short. I went from 145- 165 in a matter of 3-4 months. I added an inch on just about all my bodyparts,but calves. Before i took em i couldnt gain a pound of weight. I did take them in junction with a huge amount of calories,as i had just entered college,which was figured to somewhere in the 4,000 range of anything i could eat. I have since put on weight without them,though i used them in about 4 different cycles till 2003 and my weight reached about 175 @ 7-8% bf. When i dieted i never used them. I tried tribulus and andro poppers from pinnicle,which was the 1st product i used,and worked miracles literally. I had similar steriod like side effects in my mood,acne, and sex drive,though the extra motivation to want to workout all the time was a big plus. In 2003, my test levels fell through the floor and for about 1 year i gained 10lbs of bad weight, injured my shoulders, got my rib stuck in the cartileage a few times deadlifting, i had absolutely no drive to train,could not lose fat,eventhough i was eating all chicken with a carb cycling and cardio. My sex drive was ZERO, and i felt tired and like i was 50 years old. My doctor told me my test levels had dropped due to my prohormone cycles. After two years im back to normal again and at 198 and about 12-13% bf. I'd never touch em again,I'm even cautious about taking
ZMA again,do it natrually bro,its not worth it. Best, Ryan