[bodydropped]

Originally Posted by Johnny Bravo

It didn't. At least I did'nt feel anything. I've have never had problems with that, but I know others that end up with deca dick if they don't throw in some test.

And I did some pretty high dosage of deca. the first 3 weeks was with 800mg and the last 7 was with 400mg i think.. or 600mg. It's a long time ago, so can't remember precisly.

wow, most people who Ive talked to about deca only, they all say they have been shut down.

Anyways im a AAS Virgin, im just sucking in all the info I can, because someday in about a year or so, I will pop the cherry

[Johnny Bravo]

Originally Posted by bodydropped

wow, most people who Ive talked to about deca only, they all say they have been shut down.

Anyways im a AAS Virgin, im just sucking in all the info I can, because someday in about a year or so, I will pop the cherry

Good for you, bro. I wish I had the knowledge about AAS, diet and training that I have now, when I took my first cycle.

To many "rookies" start taking juice when they've trained for 6 month and "just can't get any bigger".

[bodydropped]

yeah by the time I plan to start I will have 2 years of solid training and dieting down, I should probably wait longer than that, but I know I probably wont

[Johnny Bravo]

Originally Posted by bodydropped

yeah by the time I plan to start I will have 2 years of solid training and dieting down, I should probably wait longer than that, but I know I probably wont

The longer you wait, the better it is. But I also know that patience is non-existent when bodybuilding :)

Just don't over do it on your first cycle, and have PCT ready.
what kind of cycle do you have in mind?

[bodydropped]

im thinking test and dbol

1-10 wks Test. cyp. or enth. 500mg per wk. (250 mon/250 fri)

1-5 wks D-Bol 20-25mg ED split with meals

and i think im gonna run 10mg nolva ed, just to be safe

I think im gonna throw some HCG in there too, just dont know too much about that yet.

PCT will probably be 4 weeks of 25mg a day

[Johnny Bravo]

Originally Posted by bodydropped

im thinking test and dbol

1-10 wks Test. cyp. or enth. 500mg per wk. (250 mon/250 fri)

1-5 wks D-Bol 20-25mg ED split with meals

and i think im gonna run 10mg nolva ed, just to be safe

I think im gonna throw some HCG in there too, just dont know too much about that yet.

PCT will probably be 4 weeks of 25mg a day

You don't even need that much. week 1-10: 250mg test enan. would be fine.:) and of course PCT and have Nolva just in case any signs of gyno shows. But I doubt there will be on such a low dosage.

[bodydropped]

cool

[GoingBiG]

Originally Posted by bodydropped

im thinking test and dbol

1-10 wks Test. cyp. or enth. 500mg per wk. (250 mon/250 fri)

1-5 wks D-Bol 20-25mg ED split with meals

and i think im gonna run 10mg nolva ed, just to be safe

I think im gonna throw some HCG in there too, just dont know too much about that yet.

PCT will probably be 4 weeks of 25mg a day

Wuuuhuuu someone did their homework....

Injecting once a week will be as good as twice and since you are a AAS virgin it will proberly be the easiest way to... It's 2 ml once a week..

5x5 mg dbold spread out on the hole day is smart too

I would use another anti-e femera as example

HCG needs to be administrated in the period between last shot AAS an pct, or through the cycle... I would use it trough cycle(i ahve good experience with that) 500IU every 5th day or 500IU twice a week until the pct starts... But if you don't like needles do it in the time between last shot and pct..
Like this 2500IU every 5th day between last shot and pct... The pct has to be 2x ester after the last shot that will be 21 days after last shot... in your case... As postcycle i would use 2 weeks with 40 mg ED Nolvadex and 2 weeks with 20 mg nolvadex ED....

[Muraco]

Originally Posted by GoingBiG

I am aware that it becomes harder gaining mass when you become older... But that must be because of the level of hormones aren't as high as when you were younger...
But in a cycle is the test level down anyway(i know there are other hormones)...
1000 mg Test and 600 mg Deca is high doses.. I know a lot of guys in the late 20s and early 30s doing smaller amounts of roids... Having about same weight as you, but having bigger gains... My point is that your happiness about GH might be a little too high, and that the gains probely is beacuse of the AAS...

When did you inject your hGH?

Well, I also used to do smaller cycles of AS in my 20's & 30's, like Sus250 once per week or 200 Test Cyp per week. Sure...there's plenty of guys younger than me who are the same weight or much larger who are making much better gains. Like I said its genetics, of which mine are average-to-low.
And whatever makes me "happy"...I willl continue to do!

[bodydropped]

Originally Posted by GoingBiG

Wuuuhuuu someone did their homework....

Injecting once a week will be as good as twice and since you are a AAS virgin it will proberly be the easiest way to... It's 2 ml once a week..

5x5 mg dbold spread out on the hole day is smart too

I would use another anti-e femera as example

HCG needs to be administrated in the period between last shot AAS an pct, or through the cycle... I would use it trough cycle(i ahve good experience with that) 500IU every 5th day or 500IU twice a week until the pct starts... But if you don't like needles do it in the time between last shot and pct..
Like this 2500IU every 5th day between last shot and pct... The pct has to be 2x ester after the last shot that will be 21 days after last shot... in your case... As postcycle i would use 2 weeks with 40 mg ED Nolvadex and 2 weeks with 20 mg nolvadex ED....

thanks

i just have heard that twice a week injections will help cut down on the sides


im not worried about the injections, im just a little worried about getting an abscess. That scares me

[GoingBiG]

Injected twice a week will give a better flow in theory but in the real world you won't feel the difference IMO...

abscess=Infection, right?

It doesn't happen so often.. I have never tried it.. Just make sure to clean the injection area and never use the same needle twice...