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Old 01-04-2006, 04:02 PM   #1
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Test Enanthate.
Deca.

PCT:

Nolva.
Clomid.
Liquid Arimidex.

Would any of you recomend this as a safe and effective cycle?

P.S. Anything you might add or take away, and suggestions on keeping
down the bloating?
 
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:53 PM   #2
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Old 01-06-2006, 12:19 AM   #3
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Test Enanthate.
Deca.

PCT:

Nolva.
Clomid.
Liquid Arimidex.

Would any of you recomend this as a safe and effective cycle?

P.S. Anything you might add or take away, and suggestions on keeping
down the bloating?
test enanthate @ 500 EW 1-12
deca @ 300 mg EW 1-12

IMO no cycle is "safe" but its a great combo. Your joints will be soothed from the deca and your sex drive will be through the roof on test. Its a great mass cycle as well. As for the bloating you can use arimidex, letrozole/femera or proviron. PCT should just consist of clomid and nolva for 4 weeks. Bump for stats and cycle experience...
 
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Old 01-06-2006, 02:34 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by SDEWITT
Test Enanthate.
Deca.

PCT:

Nolva.
Clomid.
Liquid Arimidex.

Would any of you recomend this as a safe and effective cycle?

P.S. Anything you might add or take away, and suggestions on keeping
down the bloating?
YOu'll likely get dceca dick depending on the doses. Decca shuts you down real hard. It will make your jooints feel good and combined with test will yield good gains. Take the AI while on. Also have nolva on hand for gyno and don't forget your support supps like saw palmetto and milk thistle etc.

Arimidex isn't really needed during PCT and you should use hcg every week until you start nolva clomid. Lower more frequent doses are better than large doses. Never use over 500iu per day.

PCT 4 weeks and continue low dose nolva if needed after 4 weeks for sex drive to return.

GO like this for PCT.
Weeks 1-2 clomid and nolva Day 1 100mg clomid (40mg nolva)// days 2-13 50mg clomid (20mg nolva)//
Weeks 3-4 Nolva 20mg
(optional) Weeks 5-6 Nolva 10mg

SOme would tel you this but I think it is over doing it and also makes it more lilikely to have sides from clomid .But I'll list it anyway.

Day 1
300mg clomid//60mg nolva
days 1-14 clomid 100 and nolva 40
days 15-28 clomid 50 and nolva 20

SOme guys just use nolva at 40/40/20/20 There is aledgedly no reason to tper a SERM but i'd lke to do one more week at 10mg.

I don't fell that clomid needs to be used but it can't hurt if you use it for 2 of the 4 weeks. I don't think it is good to use for the entire time becuase it can actually hinder recovery. ALso it wil make you feel like shit. NOlva won't.

Cyclofenil can be subed for nolva or clomid. It is actualy more effective but much more expensive.
 
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Old 01-09-2006, 12:55 AM   #5
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Any other advice or opinions on this cycle?

Test Enanthate
Deca
 
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Old 01-09-2006, 08:00 AM   #6
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i'd like to know what people think of the liquid form ancillaries from these research-chem sites..
 
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i'd like to know what people think of the liquid form ancillaries from these research-chem sites..

I have used them from a couple of different sites. I was happy.
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Old 01-09-2006, 08:36 PM   #8
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Any other advice or opinions on this cycle?

Test Enanthate
Deca

I like Test E. I like Deca. I never had any issues with Deca WRT to my pee-pee, so I cant relate. With the AI to keep bloat down I wouldnt cut out too much estrogen. I would go with a .5mg dose of letro. Cutting out too much estrogen will inhibit strength gains. Estrogen is your friend. Plus AIs upregulate ERs, and test aromatises, and Deca is a progesterone. Too much of an AI could leave you with a nice A cup.
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Old 01-10-2006, 12:46 AM   #9
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i'd like to know what people think of the liquid form ancillaries from these research-chem sites..

They are very good depending on the companies. Reaserch-ology.com is the best. The only thing you should know is their nolva is actually tamaxafen citrate so 30mg of the liquid is equal to 20mg of brand name nolvadex. This comes out to 1.5ml a day if you want to take 20mg nolva for your PCT. Clomid has no conversion. mg=mg
 
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Old 01-18-2006, 03:38 PM   #10
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Would Sust, Deca, and EQ be a better cycle?

Also with Nolva, Clomid, Liquid Arimi for PCT.
 
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Old 01-31-2006, 05:24 AM   #11
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no i would reccomend test E with deca.
there is no safe cycle, keep that in mind. how safer youre cycle how less gains you will gain.
 
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Old 01-31-2006, 10:34 AM   #12
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Would Sust, Deca, and EQ be a better cycle?

Also with Nolva, Clomid, Liquid Arimi for PCT.
I would use enathate or cyp. If this is your 1st cycle that's all i'd run. If you have some experience with one compound try to. SO on and so forth. Test and decca and test and eq are both good cycles.

nollva for PCT, clomid for PCT or both are good options. Use arimidex while your on cycle not in PCT.
 
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there is no safe cycle, keep that in mind. how safer youre cycle how less gains you will gain.

Here, here. If you want safe, run Anadrol. Joking.
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