How bad is Dianabol for the liver and all?

Cerberus · 01-01-2006, 12:13 AM

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I really hate needles and I'm thinking of trying some dianabols or maybe the weak stanozolol.

philosopher · 01-01-2006, 02:03 PM

dont use d-bol only bro and dont take them longer than 4-6 weeks.
mabey some deca with d-bol a classic cycle.. get over the needle fear bro, much better for the liver and the gains... 4 weeks of d-bol imo you cant hold much gains

good luck bro and do some good research

Void · 01-01-2006, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cerberus

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I really hate needles and I'm thinking of trying some dianabols or maybe the weak stanozolol.

The pills are quite harmful on your liver...like phil said injectables are much safer and youll get better gains

Ghosting · 01-01-2006, 08:58 PM

Philo is right. D-bol by itself is too hard too hold on to the gains. Since I would consider winny a cutter or very, very lean builder I wouldnt think it wouldnt be the best choice to run with D-Bol, but IDK. D-Bol for 6 weeks along with something else (i guess even winny), and at least 2 additional weeks (8 total) so to hold on to some D-Bol gains. Expect to lose some weight (water and stuff) as D-bol aromatises. Also you dont want to kill estrogen on cycle, as it will severely hinder gains and estrogen is used for various other reasons in the body. If I listed aome of the things estrogen did, you would agree it is moronic to put a big squeeze on it. However gyno is something you dont want. Many guys run .5mg of Letro (20% of the full 2.5mg dose) on a D-Bol cycle. Letro is a much better choice than Arimidex as it can pass into lipids easier meaning less water retention.

GMCtrk · 01-02-2006, 03:25 AM

If you hate needles you have no business around AAS

Cerberus · 01-02-2006, 11:13 AM

okey.

FIVE_8 · 01-02-2006, 01:23 PM

dude you called winstrol "weak"...that dosnt make sense to me at all. Stop being a wimp and do some test for 3 months...youll be horny, feel great, gain mass, keep gains...oh and if you do a dbol "only" cycle youll blow up and then deflate

Ghosting · 01-03-2006, 11:13 AM

I totally didnt answer the question. DBol no longer than 6 weeks, the stuff is too harsh to go beyond that. I you have liver conditons stay on the safe side and dont run it.

FIVE_8 · 01-03-2006, 01:19 PM

liver toxcicity is waaaaayyyyyyy too over rated. I had a buddy do dbol and anadrol for 6 weeks with a 12 week test cycle. Good blood work and he was completely normal

**roccodart440** · 01-03-2006, 09:48 PM

I would exclude both of those compounds if your going oral only.

Cerberus · 01-13-2006, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by roccodart440

I would exclude both of those compounds if your going oral only.

What do you suggest instead?

Ghosting · 01-13-2006, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FIVE_8

dude you called winstrol "weak"...that dosnt make sense to me at all.

Are you talking to me? Im the only one who called winny a cutter and good for lean gains. Winny is not known as strong, sorry.

Strong gains are never really made while using stanozolol (it's a weak androgen since it has no 3-keto group needed for androgen binding)
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catwinstrol.htm

Ghosting · 01-13-2006, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FIVE_8

liver toxcicity is waaaaayyyyyyy too over rated. I had a buddy do dbol and anadrol for 6 weeks with a 12 week test cycle. Good blood work and he was completely normal

*sigh* Good bloodwork with A-50? Only with bad stuff.
Dianabol is a methylated compound with a certain toxicity, so in the interest of safety you wouldn't use it longer than 6 weeks on end
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catdian.htm