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Clenbuterol is NOT anabolic
Old 12-19-2005, 06:12 PM   #1
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I'm having this conversation with a friend over MSN and he tells me that clenbuterol is anabolic, you know like deca or shit like that. But that's simply not the case:

"Clenbuterol:
Brand Names: Broncodil, Broncoterol, Cesbron, Clenasma, Clenbuter.Pharmachim, Contrasmina, Contraspasmina, Monores, Novegam, Oxyflux, Prontovent,
Spiropent, Ventolase, Ventapulmin,
Description: Is available in 10 - 20 mcg tablets or in the .016 mg/gram Ventapulmin Vet variety. Clenbuterol is known as a sympathomimetic. These hormones
are taken to mimic adrenaline and noradrenaline in the human body. Clenbuterol is a selective beta-2 agonist that is used to stimulate the beta-receptors in fat
and muscle tissue in the body. Clenbuterol exhibits most of its effects on the stimulation of both type 2 and 3 beta-receptors. Clenbuterol is really one of bodybuilding’s
most misunderstood performance enhancement drugs. It is true that it is effective in helping to burn bodyfat but it is often been stated that clenbuterol
is effective in causing anabolic gains and has in times even been compared to some of the weaker anabolic steroids. Books such as the World Anabolic
Review, 1996, by P. Grunding and M. Bachmann state incorrectly that, “its effects, however, can by all means be compared to those of steroids. Similar to a
combination of Winstrol Depot and Oxandrolone....” These statements are inaccurate and misleading to say the least. A lot of these claims as to the anabolic
effects of clenbuterol are derived from studying the effects of clenbuterol on livestock. Clenbuterol is effective in increasing muscle mass and decreasing fat loss
in animals.


The problem with the variation in anabolic effects between humans and livestock is that livestock have an abundance of the type 3 beta receptors whereas
humans have little if any of the type 3 beta receptors. These beta-3 receptors increases insulin secretion and sensitivity, causing more glucose and amino acids
to be transported into skeletal muscle thus causing the anabolic effects that we, humans, just aren’t seeing. As Dan Duchaine stated in his Muscle Media article
on clenbuterol, “In those animal research studies showing an anabolic effect from clenbuterol, it’s my guess the anabolism happens specifically when the beta2
receptor stops working. At that point, the beta3 increases and causes the anabolic effect through insulin mechanisms.” Since humans, again, have either very
little or no beta-3 receptors, there is no chance of this anabolic effect. Just another of the studies where everyone assumed that what works in animals must
work in humans. This is just simply not the case with clenbuterol."

This is correct right? This is copied from the anabolics e-book that's downloadable somewhere around...

I've started taking a couple of clenbuterol-pills today, and I don't consider them as anabolic steroids..I hope I'm right with this one.
 
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:37 PM   #2
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It is anabolic but in doses that would kill a human. Good for cows though.
 
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Old 02-20-2006, 02:35 AM   #3
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This is a fairly old thread, but... is clen at least anti-catabolic while cutting, if not anabolic?
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Old 02-20-2006, 06:41 AM   #4
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clen at least anti-catabolic while cutting, if not anabolic?
Exactly and has been used to help keep post cycle gains (of other drugs). Some studies have suggested that gains in strength have happened.
 
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Old 02-20-2006, 03:01 PM   #5
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Exactly and has been used to help keep post cycle gains (of other drugs). Some studies have suggested that gains in strength have happened.
Ok, because I had heard that it was VERY mildly anabolic, but mainly a cutting agent. Thanks for clarifying
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is the pill form harder on your liver than gel? I've only seen it in gel form, but I've never sought it out either. My diet isn't clean enough to bother.
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My diet isn't clean enough to bother.


only because you are weak and lazy...
 
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Old 02-21-2006, 09:46 PM   #8
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only because you are weak and lazy...
True, true. The diet is getting better though. The Sunday cook-off of prepping all my meats and portioning/freezing for the week is helping to keep the diet cleaner.
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