17 WEEKS OUT !!! NEED ADVICE

jgfla · 08-26-2005, 02:22 PM

HELLO GUMBY51, HELLO EVERYBODY

I'M 19. 86KG AND ABOUT 10% BODYFAT.

6 WEEKS AGO I STARTED TO TAKE OXYMETOLONE 50MG/DAY AND 3 WEEKS AGO I STARTED TAKING CYPIONATE TESTOSTERONE, 400MG/WK
SO I'M GOING TO THE WEEK 7.

MY PLAN WAS JUST TO HAVE A MINI-CYCLE OF OXYS TO GAIN ABOUT 4 KG, BUT I DIDNT GAIN ALMOST ANYTHING, AND WHAT I HAD GAIN IS ALL GONE, SO I STARTED CYPIONATE, AND NOW I AM STAGNATED, DONT LEAVE 85 / 86 KG.

NOW MY PLAN IS TO CONTINUE TAKING TESTOSTERONE WITH MAYBE DECA-DURABOLIN, OR ANOTHER DRUG, AND 10 WEEK OUT THE SHOW START A ''NEW CYCLE''
WITH TREMBOLONE ACETATE, STANOZOLOL AND PROPRIONATE, AND MAYBE BOLDENONE, DONT KNOW YET...

PLEASE HELP ME OUT
I KNOW I DID SOME BULLSHITS BUT LETS TRY TO FIX IT.
AND 22 WEEKS CYCLE, I KNOW ITS TOO MUCH !

THANKX

JAN !

dirkmoneyshot · 08-26-2005, 04:25 PM

First - Why did you start so damn far out if your bodyfat is a legit (10%). Thats just stupid! 10% bodyfat should take you NO more then 12 weeks. You can find pics of guys i've preped that went from 19% to contest ready in 16 weeks.

Second your 19 - Why even juice at your age?

I would get off - keep training hard and start back up at 12 weeks. Also learn how to cycle for a contest if you still plan on juicing.

deadman315x · 08-26-2005, 04:51 PM

Read the rules please

Gumby

Gumby51cm · 08-26-2005, 06:12 PM

i cant help you with this one bud. i dont know enough about steroids to give you advice on what to do or take. If i could help you i would, but im not going to answer a question that i dont know enough about.

As far as my advice goes towards your prep. If you really are at 10% (i dont think you are), then 17 weeks out would be too long to prep. i would go with 12 weeks.

Also, i personally wouldnt do my first cycle of AAS durring contest prep, i dont see a point in using something when its nearly impossible to put on muscle mass.

jgfla · 08-26-2005, 06:21 PM

I started that far because i need to put on Mass before start cutting that's why...

so should i stop or what, because i think stopping at this point, i would not be fully recovered for another cycle (not enough time) of 12 weeks. so maybe the best is to keep going with this... i dont know really im confused

need some help

thanx

Gumby51cm · 08-26-2005, 06:22 PM

first off, how far out do you plan on starting your prep?

jgfla · 08-26-2005, 08:11 PM

about 10 weeks and intensifying it as it takes closer....

but until then just keep growing the max.

i realy need advise from who knows, has been here,
like should i put another drug, or increase the testo, humm yeah
let's see..

thanks

Gumby51cm · 08-26-2005, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jgfla

about 10 weeks and intensifying it as it takes closer....

but until then just keep growing the max.

i realy need advise from who knows, has been here,
like should i put another drug, or increase the testo, humm yeah
let's see..

thanks

If this is your first show that you have prepped for, i can garentee you that you will lose all the muscle that you gain from the roids. no one gets it right the first time, you will lose some size. in the long run your just wasting $$ on the roids. i say go in natural, get some experience, then start doin the roids offseason.

jgfla · 08-26-2005, 11:06 PM

but i mean, i have a good mass, when i am preparing myself to get ripped, shredded, i know i will loose muscle so i want to stay on roids, so they wont let me lose it, they will help me to maintain it if u know what i mean..

thx

mele421 · 08-27-2005, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jgfla

but i mean, i have a good mass, when i am preparing myself to get ripped, shredded, i know i will loose muscle so i want to stay on roids, so they wont let me lose it, they will help me to maintain it if u know what i mean..

thx

You have to continue lifting heavy if you don't want to lose most of your size.

mele421 · 08-27-2005, 04:27 AM

You have to talk with StayBig to find the right cycle for you. Remember, it's trail and error. You'll learn from your mistakes, but try to find someone that really knows about 'roids like StayBig. If you want to do it, then do it.

seekinfo · 08-27-2005, 07:43 AM

its too late, stay big got banned

Gumby51cm · 08-27-2005, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by seekinfo

its too late, stay big got banned

yeah guys, he's gone. As far as taking them to maintain, you could do that, but like i said, im not an expert on roids. if you were to take them to maintin i wouldnt use a very high dosage, maybe 200mg of test a week. and that ould just be to help you along with fat burning and maintianing muscle. but ike i said before, im not an expert.

jgfla · 08-27-2005, 11:16 AM

thanks everybody, i decided.

i'm going to start my post cycle therapy with clomid...
and trying to maintain my mass just lifting heavy and eating,
when i am about 10 - 8 weeks out i start a knew cycle eating normaly until week 4 and then i start intesifying aerobics to get ripped.
cycle will be
propionate - 100mg/EOD
stanozolol - 50mg/EOD
trembolone - about 66mg/EOD

any comments are welcomed
thx