[mattvt8]

IS THIS STUFF LEGIT, AND WHAT KIND OF GAINS CAN A PERSON MOST LIKELY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS STUFF.



Without a doubt, Methyl-D is the most potent prosteroids ever developed and sold in the world to date as it is about 1.1x as anabolic as Methyl-1-Testosterone is while being only 15% as androgenic.

These characteristics allow Methyl-D to cause the similar positive effects that Methyl-1-Testerone users have reported with far fewer side effects.

Supplement Facts

One capsule supplies the following ingredients:
17a-methyl-17b-hydroxyestra-4,9 (10) dein-3-on - 3 mg
5-Alpha-Androstane 3, 17 Beta Diol (Mastabolan) - 100mg 4-Androstenediol - 100mg
Milk Thistle (80% Silymarin) - 500mg

[Pain]

moved :) id w8 till goingbig or mr bravo replies.. they know their shit.

[Johnny Bravo]

IS THIS STUFF LEGIT, AND WHAT KIND OF GAINS CAN A PERSON MOST LIKELY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS STUFF.

I don't think there are any counterfeits/fakes of pro-hormones.
I haven't tried pro-hormones and never think I will, as I haven't heard that much good about it.

A friend of mine ran a cycle of M1T and had some small gains in 3 or 4 week period, but it was only about 8-9 lbs, and I don't know how many gains he lost after the cycle.

spend your money on some good whey and food.:)
IF you really want to take hormones, then go for real AAS instead.

But in the end it's your money and your decition.

If anybody on the board have any experiences with pro-hormones please make som noise

[yordi]

i have experiences with pro-hormones, transdermal and normal caps/pills.

took both methyl products and the "normal" ph's.
if you want to take any of this stuff, then please take a transdermal that contains 1-test and 4-ad. it works soo much better then the methyl products.

the methyl products had much more side-effects in my case and my trainingpartner's, hair grow, agressiveness (and i mean really agressive)

on the transdermal ph that i used (extreme formulation's sitenhance) i gained about 10 kg in 8 weeks. sprayed once, twice a day, 1 spray on 1 muscle group. and changed between chest,shoulders,biceps,triceps,back. when i rubbed it on chest i also put the remaining stuff that wasn't used on my abs.

when you spray on chest DON'T put any on your nipples. make sure to use latex gloves also, wash your hands really good, and don't let anyone touch the areas covered in ph. i noticed that my girlfriend had a burning feeling on her tounge when she kissed my hand (after i washed it properly 3 times). so please beware of such things.

if you need any other advice on ph, feel free to ask!

Yordi

[Johnny Bravo]

Thanx alot Yordi
Sounds like some really crazy tuff.

[yordi]

yeah i'm not happy about the whole methylated products. they have the insane risk for what you get in return of muscle growth.

same with the injectable prohormones that VPX made about a year or 2 ago.. people got rash all over their body's, problems breathing, etc.

after i got medical check for my new job i'll start with the real stuff will keep you posted on that

[Johnny Bravo]

Originally Posted by yordi

yeah i'm not happy about the whole methylated products. they have the insane risk for what you get in return of muscle growth.

same with the injectable prohormones that VPX made about a year or 2 ago.. people got rash all over their body's, problems breathing, etc.

after i got medical check for my new job i'll start with the real stuff will keep you posted on that

That's what I thought. I don't think it's worth the sides.

I stick to the real thing.. testosterone

[yordi]

the thing that people think that Pro hormones are less dangerous, is because in the usa they were sold in supplement stores. which makes them "just as normal as creatine and whey supplements". if they were as "hard" to get as real steroids, people would think 2 times more before taking pro hormones. i beleve that's why they banned pro hormones also.

if you are thinking of taking performance enhancers, look at the options, and consider how far you want to go.. cus taking pro hormones is quite far.. eventhough most people don't think/understand so.

[muscle30]

think about the pro-hormone free stuff today they are supposed to be less androgenic effects and more ability to raise test levels. To each is their own i think.

[yordi]

Originally Posted by muscle30

think about the pro-hormone free stuff today they are supposed to be less androgenic effects and more ability to raise test levels. To each is their own i think.

comparing to the "first generation" prohormones, like the first dhea and products in that came out in that time, the current "latest" prohormones generation is much better then back then. but i'm talking about normal prohormones like 1-test and 4-ad, 1,4-andro and such. i don't share that opinion on the methylated products.

[Body2see]

If you want, I could have you come over and punch you in the stomach, steal your wallet, and leave.

That would leave you more satisfied then losing money on a pro-hormone, to put it nicely.

[philosopher]

damn yordi you know a lot about this. great job TQ for the info